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View Poll Results: What should I add next?
Injectors 16 51.61%
Edge J w/ A 9 29.03%
Smarty 6 19.35%
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What next?

So I can't decide what to do next and I was hoping for some opinions. My goal is mainly fuel economy and increased low end. It's a DD and I don't tow much. I do NOT want a bunch of black smoke to blow all over everyone but I realize I'll get some. What I really want is more power in the 1200 - 2000 rpm range, this thing doesn't start really pullin until around 2000 right now.

My options (as I see them) are:

Injectors (75-100hp?)
Edge J w/ A
Smarty

P.S. I already have ISSpro EV gauges (boost, FP, EGT), check sig for other stats.

P.S.S. I realize I need to upgrade the fuel system, this is AFTER that. (thanks nkfry)
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm going to go with none of the above and suggest an Airdog or FASS fuel system before ANY power adders are bought.
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Plus since you already have gauges then you wouldn't get edge juice w/att. But edge comp.
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Smarty will pull really good down low and the injectors should compliment it nicely.


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Edge Juice With Attitude CTS Monitor!!
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Injectors all the way. IMO much more reliable and solid power. Fancy electronics are nice but could just make current unnoticed problems noticable...

75-100 wouldn't be bad, but to stick with pure "mileage" reasons I would suggest RV275's and then a programmer later. You could litterally buy RV275's brand new, a Quad Max Mileage box (timing) and boost fooler for the price of just the Edge or Smarty. Just my .02
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Injectors all the way. IMO much more reliable and solid power. Fancy electronics are nice but could just make current unnoticed problems noticable...

75-100 wouldn't be bad, but to stick with pure "mileage" reasons I would suggest RV275's and then a programmer later. You could literally buy RV275's brand new, a Quad Max Mileage box (timing) and boost fooler for the price of just the Edge or Smarty. Just my .02
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annd my bad for the double post, computer went screwy

before anyone says the Quad M3 does boost fooling.. its just a timing box for pre-2001. 01-02 does timing and boost fooling.
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Plus since you already have gauges then you wouldn't get edge juice w/att. But edge comp.
So the edge Juice w/ att is the same as edge comp but with a monitor?

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Smarty will pull really good down low and the injectors should compliment it nicely.
So ur thinkin Smarty first, injectors later... I think I like that idea. I do have a $75 superchips 3705 already though, is the Smarty worth the extra 600 bones ?

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5-100 wouldn't be bad, but to stick with pure "mileage" reasons I would suggest RV275's...
So since my truck puts out 235hp, RV275's are +40hp injectors is that right? You think those would be best for an average between economy/power?

Thanks guys, sorry I'm such a
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yes +40hp is about right. I don't really think there is an "average" between economy and power, but I think it would be your best bet. The stock injectors are OK, which is why a fuel box throwing extra fuel through it works so well, BUT any aftermarket injector will help A LOT more. I put 125s in from stock and still gained about 2mpg, but I have a light foot most of the time.

btw smarty only adds abooout 60hp, its the way it makes it that's impressive.

I sincerely hope some other people chime in with injectors first, electronics later..
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So the Smarty should give me that 1200-2000 power that I'm looking for, yes? But you still would recommend I get something like RV275's first.
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I would first do injectors 100hp then add a smart programmer then do a pump

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