Mod For Mod Horsepower Diesel 7.3L vs. 5.9L (24 Valve) - Page 4

MrNiceGuy · 08-01-2009, 05:52 PM

somebody else already said it best... if you like that chevy/ford so much buy one, and then get off the CUMMINS forum!!!

it sounds like everybody that has a problem with their dodge doesnt fix things right, and wont spend a dime upgrading anything that doesnt add HP!!! when your brakes go bad replace them with slotted rotors and good pads, or do a 3rd gen swap. dont just put the same cheap autozone s%#t back on and then complain about how they dont work good.

If you cant handle the sound of a real truck resonating in the cab, put your muffler back on

and maybe a resonator too. and while your at it dynomat works wonders.

if your fenders are rusting out, thats your fault, not the truck. metal is metal is metal!! dodge doesnt just have worse metal, its because after they salt the roads on an icy day you just let it sit there and do its work, try rinsing it off

Dash cracked???? Ever heard of armoral???? its called preventitive maintenance

oh and the front end.... instead of buying that intake manifold, why not get an aftermarket track bar and steering stabelizer? and when the ball joints and U joints go bad, spend a little extra and some high quality greasable units, and keep up the maintenace!!!!

things do wear out, that is life, but you cant beat the piss out of your dodge, and not maintain it, lift it, crank up the power, and then blame dodge for u-joints and trannys... come on guys. If the Cummins came in a Ford, everybody would b@#ch because the ford would wear out before the cummins too!!!

95% of everything i hear people complain about with these trucks is preventable. Or a common and widely know issue that there are cures for, but people are too cheap to fix 'em right.

here is my advice - clean and maintain your truck like it is for sale, and you will never want to sell it!!!!

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CowboyCummins01 · 08-01-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrNiceGuy

somebody else already said it best... if you like that chevy/ford so much buy one, and then get off the CUMMINS forum!!!

it sounds like everybody that has a problem with their dodge doesnt fix things right, and wont spend a dime upgrading anything that doesnt add HP!!! when your brakes go bad replace them with slotted rotors and good pads, or do a 3rd gen swap. dont just put the same cheap autozone s%#t back on and then complain about how they dont work good.

If you cant handle the sound of a real truck resonating in the cab, put your muffler back on

and maybe a resonator too. and while your at it dynomat works wonders.

if your fenders are rusting out, thats your fault, not the truck. metal is metal is metal!! dodge doesnt just have worse metal, its because after they salt the roads on an icy day you just let it sit there and do its work, try rinsing it off

Dash cracked???? Ever heard of armoral???? its called preventitive maintenance

oh and the front end.... instead of buying that intake manifold, why not get an aftermarket track bar and steering stabelizer? and when the ball joints and U joints go bad, spend a little extra and some high quality greasable units, and keep up the maintenace!!!!

things do wear out, that is life, but you cant beat the piss out of your dodge, and not maintain it, lift it, crank up the power, and then blame dodge for u-joints and trannys... come on guys. If the Cummins came in a Ford, everybody would b@#ch because the ford would wear out before the cummins too!!!

95% of everything i hear people complain about with these trucks is preventable. Or a common and widely know issue that there are cures for, but people are too cheap to fix 'em right.

here is my advice - clean and maintain your truck like it is for sale, and you will never want to sell it!!!!

very well said

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mrmoparwl · 08-01-2009, 07:24 PM

No rant intended out there you all

I just have extensive experiance in the field and was mearly a jest, I hope I didn't offend anyone.

RollinCole · 08-01-2009, 09:42 PM

Wow that last 4 pages was intense i would rather listen to the old lady b!tch me out for an hour rather than listen to a bunch of guys b!tch about there trucks..... and thats sayin a whole lot .......just buy a civic they handle great

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Last edited by RollinCole : 08-01-2009 at 09:43 PM. Reason: just cuz

milesdodgeboy · 08-01-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokingFords

I dont like the dashes in the dodges,mine is cracked pretty bad

I actually like the cracked dash in mine. It has more crack than dash in it now but it gives it some character

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Number47 · 08-01-2009, 10:22 PM

if you want to buy a truck to make power and last, get a cummins. if you want one that will just flat out last....flip a coin. i have a cummins due to the low end torque, and simplicity the engine and the ease of work on it... if i ever have to. thats my opinion. i cant bash the 7.3l at all. they last but when you start to make extra power they start to get tired fast

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**patracy** · 08-02-2009, 01:12 AM

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse

, BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

mrmoparwl · 08-02-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by patracy

For sure the past rocks

KRob · 08-02-2009, 03:52 AM

I cant agree more with MrNiceGuy. All vehicles have small stupid stuff that breaks on them over time. All of them have some advantages and disadvantages, and you as the purchaser has to way the pros and cons of what you want.

To caveat of MrNiceGuy, in the Army (say what you want about Army maintenance) we have something called PMCS (Preventive Maintenances Checks and Services). Currently I am deployed to Iraq; I am using Freightliners (M915) to haul cargo all over theater. These trucks every mission are flogged, beat, and pummeled. Take a truck throw 3 plus tons of armor around the cab, hauling two 10ton Up-Armored Humves and hit an IED crater at 60mph. Just driving on Iraqi Roads is awful, think of a pot holed road and then pave it without filling in the holes

Every time before my Soldiers turn the trucks on for the day, every time they shut them down at the end of a day they go over them quickly looking for issues. Most importantly at the end of every mission they go through them with our maintenance guys and fix any problems and service them, mainly greasing all the points. These trucks are on their 5 rotation which means they have had four other units beating on them for close to a year a piece.

Now what was my point….Ah yes PMCS. By spending the time to service them regularly and fixing stuff as it breaks my M915 have lasted a long time doing a job they were never intended for. How does this relate to a Dodge…well most of us are doing things to these trucks weren’t intended to do. I was a rancher before becoming a Soldier; I have beat on plenty a truck, including my current Dodge. However by spending the time to service my rigs and spending a little money on the fixes for problems. By doing the PREVENTIVE MAINTENACE, I do not experience as many of the problems that I hear about on here.

Lastly, think about the age of these trucks in this section the last of them was made in 02 it 09 now so these trucks have been in service for at least 7 years, with what done to them…..

Well sorry about the little bit of the rant and lecture…I try not to.

Have a Good Day All

Rob

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DavidRasch17 · 08-02-2009, 04:15 AM

for real everytruck isnt made to last for ever. nothing does. their is a market that also thrives off of vechiles breaking down. duramaxs sucked until the 6.6....wanna know why? they fixed the problems with the 6.2 and 6.5... cummins slowly got better....its a 10 year old truck... if u dont want something u dont mind working on... by a new truck and follow the warrenty on it. they make new generation trucks TO FIX the problems with the old ones....for instance. the vp44 has a flaw. so the 3rd gen swapped t the cp3. no truck is perfect. but if i was going to choose a diesel i would want the one that is in the majority of semis and construction equipment. cummins has been around longer then the others.. theirs prolly a reason. if u hate the dodge part. buy a ford and do destroking kit. OR BETTER yet... UPGRADE the parts that fail instead of just saying dodge made it crappy. honestly the vp44 works fine in stock form. but what do u expect from anything when u run the piss out of it with a chip or bigger injectors. something will fail. no company designs the truck around aftermarket parts. they design it for the stock use. people need to realize this.

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08-01-2009, 05:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
MrNiceGuy Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milton, Wa Posts: 204 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts MrNiceGuy's Truck Pics	somebody else already said it best... if you like that chevy/ford so much buy one, and then get off the CUMMINS forum!!! it sounds like everybody that has a problem with their dodge doesnt fix things right, and wont spend a dime upgrading anything that doesnt add HP!!! when your brakes go bad replace them with slotted rotors and good pads, or do a 3rd gen swap. dont just put the same cheap autozone s%#t back on and then complain about how they dont work good. If you cant handle the sound of a real truck resonating in the cab, put your muffler back onand maybe a resonator too. and while your at it dynomat works wonders. if your fenders are rusting out, thats your fault, not the truck. metal is metal is metal!! dodge doesnt just have worse metal, its because after they salt the roads on an icy day you just let it sit there and do its work, try rinsing it off Dash cracked???? Ever heard of armoral???? its called preventitive maintenance oh and the front end.... instead of buying that intake manifold, why not get an aftermarket track bar and steering stabelizer? and when the ball joints and U joints go bad, spend a little extra and some high quality greasable units, and keep up the maintenace!!!! things do wear out, that is life, but you cant beat the piss out of your dodge, and not maintain it, lift it, crank up the power, and then blame dodge for u-joints and trannys... come on guys. If the Cummins came in a Ford, everybody would b@#ch because the ford would wear out before the cummins too!!! 95% of everything i hear people complain about with these trucks is preventable. Or a common and widely know issue that there are cures for, but people are too cheap to fix 'em right. here is my advice - clean and maintain your truck like it is for sale, and you will never want to sell it!!!! __________________ '02 6spd\|Gauge Pillar\|S&B Intake\|5" TBE\|fass\|HR-VP44\|110 stix\|ARP studs\|HTT 62/14\|BD Manifold Valair Clutch\|Adrenaline-Smarty stack\|BDS lift\|20" BMF Novakane's\|35" Rubber

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08-01-2009, 07:24 PM	#39 (permalink)
mrmoparwl Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prince George BC Canada Posts: 100 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts mrmoparwl's Truck Pics	No rant intended out there you all I just have extensive experiance in the field and was mearly a jest, I hope I didn't offend anyone.

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RollinCole Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 621 Thanks: 4 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts RollinCole's Truck Pics	Wow that last 4 pages was intense i would rather listen to the old lady b!tch me out for an hour rather than listen to a bunch of guys b!tch about there trucks..... and thats sayin a whole lot .......just buy a civic they handle great __________________ 2001 2500 4X4, 47re, Adrenaline/Pulse, HTT 66, Bd Rad, BD 3 piece exhaust manifold, banks high ram, 5" strait pipe, BAMF INTAKE, Mallory comp fuel pump, billet TC, Lock up switch, suncoast VB, 0.093 tubes, level kit, 35s & 20s.. Last edited by RollinCole : 08-01-2009 at 09:43 PM. Reason: just cuz

08-01-2009, 10:22 PM	#42 (permalink)
Number47 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 271 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts Number47's Truck Pics	if you want to buy a truck to make power and last, get a cummins. if you want one that will just flat out last....flip a coin. i have a cummins due to the low end torque, and simplicity the engine and the ease of work on it... if i ever have to. thats my opinion. i cant bash the 7.3l at all. they last but when you start to make extra power they start to get tired fast __________________ 00 3500 dually, 5 speed, 4 door, Gauges, with Quad Adrenaline, Raptor 150 with 1/2inc fuel lines, 4inch DP 5inch exhaust, BHAF, SBC DD clutch, good for 353.7hp and 938.2ftlbs torque. and more to come

08-02-2009, 01:12 AM	#43 (permalink)
patracy GA VP...so close to 500hp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Buchanan, GA Posts: 3,714 Thanks: 30 Thanked 251 Times in 106 Posts patracy's Truck Pics	__________________ 1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse , BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

08-02-2009, 03:52 AM	#45 (permalink)
KRob Cummins Fan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: K-Town Germany but my Heart's still in Eastern Oregon Posts: 81 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts KRob's Truck Pics	I cant agree more with MrNiceGuy. All vehicles have small stupid stuff that breaks on them over time. All of them have some advantages and disadvantages, and you as the purchaser has to way the pros and cons of what you want. To caveat of MrNiceGuy, in the Army (say what you want about Army maintenance) we have something called PMCS (Preventive Maintenances Checks and Services). Currently I am deployed to Iraq; I am using Freightliners (M915) to haul cargo all over theater. These trucks every mission are flogged, beat, and pummeled. Take a truck throw 3 plus tons of armor around the cab, hauling two 10ton Up-Armored Humves and hit an IED crater at 60mph. Just driving on Iraqi Roads is awful, think of a pot holed road and then pave it without filling in the holes Every time before my Soldiers turn the trucks on for the day, every time they shut them down at the end of a day they go over them quickly looking for issues. Most importantly at the end of every mission they go through them with our maintenance guys and fix any problems and service them, mainly greasing all the points. These trucks are on their 5 rotation which means they have had four other units beating on them for close to a year a piece. Now what was my point….Ah yes PMCS. By spending the time to service them regularly and fixing stuff as it breaks my M915 have lasted a long time doing a job they were never intended for. How does this relate to a Dodge…well most of us are doing things to these trucks weren’t intended to do. I was a rancher before becoming a Soldier; I have beat on plenty a truck, including my current Dodge. However by spending the time to service my rigs and spending a little money on the fixes for problems. By doing the PREVENTIVE MAINTENACE, I do not experience as many of the problems that I hear about on here. Lastly, think about the age of these trucks in this section the last of them was made in 02 it 09 now so these trucks have been in service for at least 7 years, with what done to them….. Well sorry about the little bit of the rant and lecture…I try not to. Have a Good Day All Rob __________________ 01, 2500 Ext Cab Long Box, 6 speed 3:55 posi, Walbro-GFS 392, Timbo APPS, Quadzilla Commander, 0-40 psi fp sensor, XZT+, 90-130hp Injectors PO, Boost Elbow (set at 30psi), And an Xzillaraiter sitting on the shelf waiting to be put on, MIA Silencer Ring

08-02-2009, 04:15 AM	#46 (permalink)
DavidRasch17 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Imperial, Missouri Posts: 264 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts DavidRasch17's Truck Pics	for real everytruck isnt made to last for ever. nothing does. their is a market that also thrives off of vechiles breaking down. duramaxs sucked until the 6.6....wanna know why? they fixed the problems with the 6.2 and 6.5... cummins slowly got better....its a 10 year old truck... if u dont want something u dont mind working on... by a new truck and follow the warrenty on it. they make new generation trucks TO FIX the problems with the old ones....for instance. the vp44 has a flaw. so the 3rd gen swapped t the cp3. no truck is perfect. but if i was going to choose a diesel i would want the one that is in the majority of semis and construction equipment. cummins has been around longer then the others.. theirs prolly a reason. if u hate the dodge part. buy a ford and do destroking kit. OR BETTER yet... UPGRADE the parts that fail instead of just saying dodge made it crappy. honestly the vp44 works fine in stock form. but what do u expect from anything when u run the piss out of it with a chip or bigger injectors. something will fail. no company designs the truck around aftermarket parts. they design it for the stock use. people need to realize this. __________________ 98.5 Blue 2500, 5speed, edge juice w/ attitude, BHAF,FASS150GPH,5 inch str8 pipe,halo projectors, tow mirrors, smoke switch, silencer ring MIA, 2rockford fosgate p2s in a custom fiberglass box, black interior, valair 12 1/4 500hp clutch.