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farmboy1989 · 12-30-2007, 08:21 PM

My uncle has a 01 stroker with a mild chip in it and nothing else done. It is one heck of a runner. My 98.5 dually has no chip but has K&N and banks high ram and it feels doggy compared to the Ford. Im a Chevy man all the way. Ive had a 6.5 diesel. Had bad luck on one motor, but I still think they are good engines. The truck was nothing less than a gem and it was a great truck and in my opinion. My dodge is nice but its just not like my Chevy was. Seems like all I have done is replace bushings and do front end work on it since I bought it. Ford interior feels cheap. If you want a fast truck , get a 7.3. If you want a dependable engine, get a Cummins. 206,xxx on mine and still tickin.

TXaggie09 · 12-30-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by proracer700

i love my dodge. I would never buy a ford for one reason...my grandpa has a powerstroke that he had a chip in and which he doesn't even use anymore. 9 tranny's later. pretty bad for a truck that just hit 130k

9 transmissions and its not a problem with the truck, its a problem with who is rebuilding it. Not saying its a good transmission cause most autos suck regardless of brand.

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Kbrogger · 12-30-2007, 09:27 PM

Just my opinion, putting an auto behind a diesel built for a gasser is retarded. I don't think Chev even offers a manual tranny anymore.

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proracer700 · 12-30-2007, 09:49 PM

Chevy uses the Allison though. Which is a much better automatic than the 47re IMO. That would probably be the only change i would make in my dodge.

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cumminspwrd02 · 12-30-2007, 09:54 PM

I love my dodge/cummins, i've had it for 3 yrs now and its been a great truck to me. Before I bought it i did research how much it would cost to bomb a dodge or a 7.3 ford, at the time I was on the fence and chevy just wasn't an option. I owned a dodge truck before this one and after researching the costs and relibility I went with the Dodge CTD over the Ford PSD. Mine isn't turned up now but I will be bombing it soon enough.

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Dfer10 · 12-30-2007, 10:07 PM

i love my dodge/cummins hate the trans though, still trying to get it to shift right. wish someone would do a 3rd gen allison swap.

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BigDsCummins · 12-31-2007, 01:40 AM

A trans tech at the dealer I bought my 06 from said I would be better off to upgrade mine than to do a swap because he sees just as many allison transmissions in the shop as he does any other. This was a shop that deals with a Chevy Ford and Dodge dealer too.

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'96 3500 4x4 DRW, 5spd., 3KGSK, 12mm Studs, 60lb Springs, No Plate, Starwheel Cranked, Disabled Wastegate, Isspro Boost & Pyro, BHAF, Silencer Ring Gone, 4" Turbo Back...

SmokingFords · 12-31-2007, 02:05 AM

I dont like the dashes in the dodges,mine is cracked pretty bad

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Dfer10 · 12-31-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDsCummins

A trans tech at the dealer I bought my 06 from said I would be better off to upgrade mine than to do a swap because he sees just as many allison transmissions in the shop as he does any other. This was a shop that deals with a Chevy Ford and Dodge dealer too.

that is def interesting

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***Maintain*** · 12-31-2007, 07:01 PM

Ford = best truck
Cummins = best motor
4r100/47re = best BUILT transmission

Ford and Dodge both use good axles... Dana 50's, 60's, 80's and Sterling 10.25"/10.5".

I'm driving a 99 dodge 1500 318 right now since my friend took my 7.3 F250 to Texas to tow his girlfriend's car home. This thing has about the cheapest feeling and looking interior of any fullsize pickup I've ever been in. It's surprisingly loud inside, and the A/pillars/mirrors leave much to be desired. The dash is cracked all to he11 and it's rusting bad on the doors and tailgate. It's only got 83,000 miles on it too and was driven by a grand pop and garage kept for the first 70 some thousand miles...

My biggest problem with my 7.3 is the PMR rods... I'm limited to 400 rwhp which I'm only injectors away from at this point.

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jstange2 · 12-31-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDsCummins

Amen!:thumbsup

double amen!!

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mrmoparwl · 08-01-2009, 05:13 PM

Real engines are 6 in a row, look at the big rigs, V8 has more friction to over come not to mention more resiprocating weight. Physics always has a way of showing what works best, ps when Dodge was developing the diesel pick up for the third time tested the Allison and the allison couldnot handle the cummins broad torque curve. I know this is a late post so ignore it if you like but let me know if you like.

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12-30-2007, 08:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
farmboy1989 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Central Illinois Posts: 224 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts farmboy1989's Truck Pics	My uncle has a 01 stroker with a mild chip in it and nothing else done. It is one heck of a runner. My 98.5 dually has no chip but has K&N and banks high ram and it feels doggy compared to the Ford. Im a Chevy man all the way. Ive had a 6.5 diesel. Had bad luck on one motor, but I still think they are good engines. The truck was nothing less than a gem and it was a great truck and in my opinion. My dodge is nice but its just not like my Chevy was. Seems like all I have done is replace bushings and do front end work on it since I bought it. Ford interior feels cheap. If you want a fast truck , get a 7.3. If you want a dependable engine, get a Cummins. 206,xxx on mine and still tickin.

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12-30-2007, 09:27 PM	#27 (permalink)
Kbrogger Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northfield MN, Posts: 125 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Kbrogger's Truck Pics	Just my opinion, putting an auto behind a diesel built for a gasser is retarded. I don't think Chev even offers a manual tranny anymore. __________________ 2001 H.O., 6spd, Edge comp, FASS 150/150, South Bend con OFE clutch, MBRP 5" exhaust

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proracer700 Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montrose, PA Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts proracer700's Truck Pics	Chevy uses the Allison though. Which is a much better automatic than the 47re IMO. That would probably be the only change i would make in my dodge. __________________ 2002 2500 qc 4x4, 4 inch bds lift, mt wheels and tires, fbd 5 in. straight piped, k&n air filter, silencer ring (m.i.a.), isspro fuel boost and pyro, bhaf....more goodies to come

12-30-2007, 09:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
cumminspwrd02 Cummins Nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Valparaiso, Indiana Posts: 458 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post cumminspwrd02's Truck Pics	I love my dodge/cummins, i've had it for 3 yrs now and its been a great truck to me. Before I bought it i did research how much it would cost to bomb a dodge or a 7.3 ford, at the time I was on the fence and chevy just wasn't an option. I owned a dodge truck before this one and after researching the costs and relibility I went with the Dodge CTD over the Ford PSD. Mine isn't turned up now but I will be bombing it soon enough. __________________ Matt"Locomotive Superhero" 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Reg. Cab, Arrest Me Red SLT Laramie 24v Cummins AT w/ 4.10 LSD. Quad XZT+, Gauges, Amsoil BHAF, Loud 4" Pipe, Tonneau Cover, Tinted windows. Thanks to South County Diesel Performance.

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Dfer10 Diesel Head Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver(Aurora/ Parker) Posts: 1,218 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Dfer10's Truck Pics	i love my dodge/cummins hate the trans though, still trying to get it to shift right. wish someone would do a 3rd gen allison swap. __________________ 2006 QBSB. 6 Injectors, 1 Turbo, 2 Axles and 4 tires!!

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BigDsCummins Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pickens, SC Posts: 247 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts BigDsCummins's Truck Pics	A trans tech at the dealer I bought my 06 from said I would be better off to upgrade mine than to do a swap because he sees just as many allison transmissions in the shop as he does any other. This was a shop that deals with a Chevy Ford and Dodge dealer too. __________________ '06 3500 Sport 4x4 QC DRW, 48RE, Sunroof, Loaded, 6" Superlift, 37" Toyo Mt's, Quad Commander & Xzillaraider, Therminator Muffler, Gutted Intake, Silencer Ring Gone... '96 3500 4x4 DRW, 5spd., 3KGSK, 12mm Studs, 60lb Springs, No Plate, Starwheel Cranked, Disabled Wastegate, Isspro Boost & Pyro, BHAF, Silencer Ring Gone, 4" Turbo Back...

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SmokingFords Diesel Head Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Anderson-SC Posts: 2,430 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts SmokingFords's Truck Pics	I dont like the dashes in the dodges,mine is cracked pretty bad __________________ 2001 Dodge 2500 Black sport 6 speed BD High HP VP44 Adrenaline/pulse Smoke switch SmartyRevo,.093 tubes DDP 200s HT64/65/14 turbo,southbend DD 3250 ,GFS-392 fuel system,AFE boost tube/ScottieII Snow water/ meth,FBD 5in to 7in tip,35"Nitto's Leving kit 511Hp 1012Tq

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*Maintain* International Threat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elkton, MD Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Maintain's Truck Pics	Ford = best truck Cummins = best motor 4r100/47re = best BUILT transmission Ford and Dodge both use good axles... Dana 50's, 60's, 80's and Sterling 10.25"/10.5". I'm driving a 99 dodge 1500 318 right now since my friend took my 7.3 F250 to Texas to tow his girlfriend's car home. This thing has about the cheapest feeling and looking interior of any fullsize pickup I've ever been in. It's surprisingly loud inside, and the A/pillars/mirrors leave much to be desired. The dash is cracked all to he11 and it's rusting bad on the doors and tailgate. It's only got 83,000 miles on it too and was driven by a grand pop and garage kept for the first 70 some thousand miles... My biggest problem with my 7.3 is the PMR rods... I'm limited to 400 rwhp which I'm only injectors away from at this point. __________________ 2001 F250 Platinum Edition Traps 110mph at 7500lbs.

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mrmoparwl Cummins Fan Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prince George BC Canada Posts: 81 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts mrmoparwl's Truck Pics	Real engines are 6 in a row, look at the big rigs, V8 has more friction to over come not to mention more resiprocating weight. Physics always has a way of showing what works best, ps when Dodge was developing the diesel pick up for the third time tested the Allison and the allison couldnot handle the cummins broad torque curve. I know this is a late post so ignore it if you like but let me know if you like.