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Old 01-16-2010, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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450hp with no electronics?

I don't like putting to much trust in aftermarket electronics. That being said, I know I would have to have a boost fooler. Other than that, what's the simplest way to get 400-450hp without using a box. BTW, I am not opposed to using a smarty as from what I've read you just program with it & it doesn't have to ride around in your truck plugged in.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Get a turbo that's suits your needs, mikes monster pump kit ( included pump injectors and tubes) then supporting mods and you could hit what you like without electronics.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Big turbo like a 64/71/14 or 66 and some 200-240 horse injectors.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Get a turbo that's suits your needs, mikes monster pump kit ( included pump injectors and tubes) then supporting mods and you could hit what you like without electronics.
You're suggesting this because i wouldn't have a tapped vp so I would need more fueling in a more mechanical manner hence the monster pump and higher flowing tubes?

Also, who is mike?

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Old 01-16-2010, 12:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Why not just p-pump it....no electronics there
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm not that hardcore

I put p-pumping in the 'Advanced Users' category!
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not that hardcore

I put p-pumping in the 'Advanced Users' category!
oh ok....lol.... well just like the other guys are saying, some bigger injectors and a bigger turbo....a HRVP could possibly help as well since your not planning on tapping it....
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Hey,

Why are you so worried about electronics??

Many guys run them and the trucks live very long lives!!!!!

You'll have to have some sort of boost fouler to keep the MAP from seeing too high of boost and de-fueling the truck!!!!

If you don't want to tap the pump get a Edge EZ or a Comp (just don't tap it)!!!!

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like prowelder said, why so apposed to electronics? why are you cool with something that reprograms your ECM (smarty). rather than something that just fools ecm inputs (edge, quad, ext.)?

like i said before, aftermarket moduels dont reprogram you ecm, they just fool its inputs. so, if it to happens to fail, you will just go back to stock. there is very little to no risk.

jw... do you watch those powerstroke things on youtube with that bald headed guy?
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like prowelder said, why so apposed to electronics? why are you cool with something that reprograms your ECM (smarty). rather than something that just fools ecm inputs (edge, quad, ext.)?

like i said before, aftermarket moduels dont reprogram you ecm, they just fool its inputs. so, if it to happens to fail, you will just go back to stock. there is very little to no risk.

jw... do you watch those powerstroke things on youtube with that bald headed guy?
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like prowelder said, why so apposed to electronics? why are you cool with something that reprograms your ECM (smarty). rather than something that just fools ecm inputs (edge, quad, ext.)?

like i said before, aftermarket moduels dont reprogram you ecm, they just fool its inputs. so, if it to happens to fail, you will just go back to stock. there is very little to no risk.

jw... do you watch those powerstroke things on youtube with that bald headed guy?

i know who hes talking about, the dude on the 6.0 powerstrokes
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