:thumbsup: HAVE TO AGREE THEY ARE MANAGABLE I KNOW MINE WERE ON A 12VER BUT I HAD STOCK TURBO AS WELL WITH THE SAME INJECTOR SIZE AS YOU DUKE HAULING THAT BIG ASSSS FIFTH WHEEL IT IS ALL ABOUT HOW YOU DRIVE IT

 

yeah i would have to agree BEER. it's all in the truck and the driver. there are many factors that can play a roll in power.


i'll get a video up of the tractor i will be pulling this weekend also. it's a 50hp Kubota with a loader and a cab....4x4.

 

thats pretty much the results I see with the fueling box turned off, just running a timing box. Runs up to 1250-1300 ish and just sits there. Hits a wall so to speak. By the time I "hit the wall" towing, I'm already going way too fast to be towing. :thumbsup:

 

thats pretty much the results I see with the fueling box turned off, just running a timing box. Runs up to 1250-1300 ish and just sits there. Hits a wall so to speak. By the time I "hit the wall" towing, I'm already going way too fast to be towing. :thumbsup:

Very good point.

 

I had the same setup in my other truck. Coaltrain 150s, juice, built tranny and stock hx35. With the juice on 1 i got ~ the same results as you Duke, but on a couple 1/4 runs with the juice on 5 or 6 it would get pretty hot(~1750* when the convertor locked in OD). I drove it on 5x5 all the time and as long as you didnt stay in it for 15 seconds + it wouldnt get hot. Towed my toyota and a skid loader with that setup in fairly flat country and it didnt get hot on 1x5.

Nice vid BTW:thumbsup:

 

I ususally setup all the truck for towing i do with this setup 350-375hp

7x10 310 BAR (125hp) this injector actuall has more power than most 150hp injectors
Quad XZT+ (similiar to ez)
4inch turbo back
CAI
Gauges
AD150

This setup Max your goin to see is 12-1300deg i dont care how hard you drive it or how much weight. Our sole purpose when looking for ths setup was pull the highest egts and thats all we could get. There is also a friend running same setup as above but we have a 7x10( .010 lift and .010 stroke) 310BAR. I call this a 150hp injector but most on the market call it 200hp. This guy tows the crap out this truck. Egts are little higher but controlable. Most guys i know with twins and a sovp with big injectors only run timing on the street any way because you honestly dont need it.

I towed with my truck just fine and no egts problems. 16ft trailer and 10,000 excavator 435hp

CAI
7x10 310BAR
hrvp
jim jessup tune

theres no turning this setup down i dint try for max egts but just driving there were no problems. If i get my t-case done i plan on goin and picking up a truck in ohio and towing it back with my s366 i have now and i guarentee i wont have problems.

 

I ususally setup all the truck for towing i do with this setup 350-375hp

7x10 310 BAR (125hp) this injector actuall has more power than most 150hp injectors
Quad XZT+ (similiar to ez)
4inch turbo back
CAI
Gauges
AD150

Yup, had that same exact setup for a while, and you are right on. NO HIGHER THAN 1300 degrees no matter what, dynoed 350 and towed great.:thumbsup:

 

nice input kjp :thumbsup: hey remember some of the members only know 100's, 150's and so on so are these set ups you speak of on STOCK turbos? i am assuming they are :thumbsup:

 

nice writeup duke :thumbsup:

 

thanks Kyle. i had been seeing where there were a lot of people asking the same thing and kept being told that 150's were too big. so i thought i'd remove the myth a little. but i do agree that for some set up 150's are way too big. i wish we could all get a thread going of different set ups and sizes with videos to set the record straight. i was leery of 150's until i rode in Josh's truck. so now i how we can help other guys make a sound choice and feel safe. i need to get a video up of how much smoke it doesn't make too

 

it seems i have been taking about my two buddies with 150's on a stock turbo alot here lately im glad one of yall finialy did it

 

Yeah...now I'm gonna make a few "smokeless" 350hp vids.

 

i though you would be pushin the 400hp mark?

 

depends where the switches are set . One of these days I'll buy some air

 

i remember you set your comp on like 4 or 5 and it wasnt more than a haze.

 

i get 18-20 in town drivin it kinda hard. i have seen 25 on the highway. the overhead lie-o-meter says 32.1 at times on average

 

Hey,

WOW!!!!! That's good!!!! I want those injectors!!!!!!:drool2:

Later,
Winslow

 

not trying to take over the thread but what about an HY-35 with 150's i would think it would be a little toasty or would it not make that much of a differecne?

 

may be a tad warm :thumbsup:

 

that lie-o-meter is a joke when you make a mod to you fuel. i like my injectors :thumbsup:

 

kinda thought so, but do you still think it would be manageable?

 

now that i'm not sure. MY TRUCK CAME WITH THE HX LUCKILY.




From jmd: Duke, i edited your post because you are confused. LMAO. 01-02 autos had hy35s....everything else, including all sticks, were HX35s.

You're welcome.

 

so, quick ?.... Say I go on ahead and order me some mach 4's and throw em in there, I would be ok with the box turned down and could possibly pull a small load on a trailor with the box off and be ok??.... that is until I get a turbo.... if so I may go on ahead and get them and throw them in there....

 

Thats what we are saying! I tow regularly with timingbox, 150s, and stock turbo. 5 speed truck. No EGT issues.:thumbsup:

 

Keep the comp on 1 when towing and you should be ok

 

may go on ahead on order those with my tax return and then get me a turbo later on this summer

 

Towing with big sticks is very manageable. Its a lot easier with a manual than an automatic, but still possible. Like others have said, a lot of it is the driver and the truck. Use your head, and if you're gonna tow heavy with a modded truck, get gauges and learn how to use them. :thumbsup:

I'm dealing with a 3rd gen, but I towed heavy with my stock turbo and big sticks with the X2 turned off before I upgraded, and it was still manageable. On long steep grades, I'd just let off and watch my EGTs and make sure I knew when to downshift. If you've got that much weight behind you, you're not gonna need to accelerate like there's no tomorrow, so just use your head and you'll make it no problem arty018:

 

well, think ill go on ahead and order sometime soon then....let me ask this question....should I KEEP my stock injectors and pay the 200 dollar core charge on the Mach 4's or send em back in and get my 200 back????

 

Ive thought about this too but haven't bought any injectors yet. I like the idea of having the stock ones around for a while but I hate to lose 200 bucks. I would find out what a set of good used stock injectors will sell for and then decide if keeping them is worth the difference.

 

good used stock injectors sell for 50-75 bucks.

 

I have 7x.010 and +.010 lift and a 62/68... full throttle i can barely hit close to 950-1000 deg egt's with the box off. with the box on kill i hit around 1300. the turbo matters big time.

 

62/68/14 right? have you dynoed it yet? nice set up :thumbsup:

 

alright i got a video of my egt's towing :thumbsup: give me a few hours and i'll see if i can get it up.

 

alright i got a video of my egt's towing :thumbsup: give me a few hours and i'll see if i can get it up.

Sounds like a personal problem