is it really needed?

5.9 Coal Roller · 11-04-2009, 08:55 PM

i am gettin the juice with attitude, but i have been told that i need an airdog or fass before ANYTHING. I know it would be ideal but is it something that i really do need to do first? and i will admit that i dont wanna be replacing my vp!

thanks,
Ryan.

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CumminsOrNothin · 11-04-2009, 09:03 PM

Your going to wanna do it as soon as possible. But at least you can monitor your fuel pressure with the attitude. VP are not cheap. How many miles bro??

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87poweram · 11-04-2009, 09:03 PM

yes that is probably something you want to do first. I dont see gauges listed in your sig, but that comes with the attitude monitor. i would recommend the airdog first. but if you hook up the juice that will tell you your psi, but it will be hard to keep from going above stock levels, until you have a pump that can keep up with fueling that edge. so if you get airdog first you can use the juice as soon as its on, if you get the juice first, you probably won't be able to fuel it above stock until you put a new pump on. If i had to do one first, it would be the airdog then the juice.

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dieselsoon · 11-04-2009, 09:12 PM

get the edge just set the fuel psi alert at 10psi, ya hear the beep immediately get your foot out of it. I cant go past level 3 or it will beep right away and i idle 15psi and can suck it down to 9 in level 3.

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little red cummins · 11-04-2009, 09:13 PM

yea id do the FASS or AirDog first. i got my J/A first and saw that i was only pushin 10psi at idle.....

i got lucky and didnt f up my VP.

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Dracozny · 11-04-2009, 09:21 PM

spend a few bucks and buy a test gauge then you will know for sure. as they say 10psi is your lower limit if its even 12 at idle I gaurantee its much lower on the highway. personally I say buy a raptor 100 or 150 if you plan to break the 500hp mark.

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dieselsoon · 11-04-2009, 09:35 PM

raptor 150 going in friday, and a write up. Non drawstraw install. If you cant control your urge or can swallow your pride when a pos ricer revs it up and launches out of a light next to you then dont get the juice. I had severel chances but i controlled my self and didnt punch it. But after friday its game time!!

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5.9 Coal Roller · 11-05-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CumminsOrNothin

Your going to wanna do it as soon as possible. But at least you can monitor your fuel pressure with the attitude. VP are not cheap. How many miles bro??

i am at 206k 99% highway miles, but i dont think i could get my foot out of it with the juice so i better get the airdog first.

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cattlepuncher · 11-05-2009, 02:41 AM

The raptor does not include a filter system correct?

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**patracy** · 11-05-2009, 07:15 AM

You need a lift pump STOCK.

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87poweram · 11-05-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cattlepuncher

The raptor does not include a filter system correct?

you are correct

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***Mopar1973Man*** · 11-05-2009, 10:59 AM

The AirDog has filter system and the Raptor doesn't...

Here is a AD150...

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CumminsOrNothin Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 359 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts CumminsOrNothin's Truck Pics	Your going to wanna do it as soon as possible. But at least you can monitor your fuel pressure with the attitude. VP are not cheap. How many miles bro?? __________________ 1999 4x4 Auto De-Chromed *Southwest Coal Rollers.Com(NM,TX,AZ,CO)*

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87poweram Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: troy,mo Posts: 77 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 87poweram's Truck Pics	yes that is probably something you want to do first. I dont see gauges listed in your sig, but that comes with the attitude monitor. i would recommend the airdog first. but if you hook up the juice that will tell you your psi, but it will be hard to keep from going above stock levels, until you have a pump that can keep up with fueling that edge. so if you get airdog first you can use the juice as soon as its on, if you get the juice first, you probably won't be able to fuel it above stock until you put a new pump on. If i had to do one first, it would be the airdog then the juice. __________________ 98 24V qcsb. 4" mbrp, bhaf w/stainless shield, raptor 100, FlashPaq, isspro column mount fuel pressure.

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dieselsoon Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 179 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts dieselsoon's Truck Pics	get the edge just set the fuel psi alert at 10psi, ya hear the beep immediately get your foot out of it. I cant go past level 3 or it will beep right away and i idle 15psi and can suck it down to 9 in level 3. __________________ 98.5 (2wd) (ext.cab. black) 3:55 gears, the legendary hiperf 53 block, 5 speed, edge juice w/ attitude- full mbrp exhaust- ats intake manifold, kn intake, raptor 150/draw straw 1

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little red cummins Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: apalachin, ny Posts: 888 Thanks: 3 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts little red cummins's Truck Pics	yea id do the FASS or AirDog first. i got my J/A first and saw that i was only pushin 10psi at idle..... i got lucky and didnt f up my VP. __________________ 2002 2500 4x4 6spd. 3rd Gen. Recon Cab Lights. SB single disk. HOT edge J/A. FASS 150. BHAF and Outer Wear. Silencer ring MIA. 6'' aussies. leveled. 315 procomp m/t. B&W Gooseneck Hitch. Cobra 29 w/ dual 4ft Firesticks. Cumstom Front Bumper. Soon to have 4.10s

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Dracozny Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Linn County, Oregon Posts: 623 Thanks: 3 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts Dracozny's Truck Pics	spend a few bucks and buy a test gauge then you will know for sure. as they say 10psi is your lower limit if its even 12 at idle I gaurantee its much lower on the highway. personally I say buy a raptor 100 or 150 if you plan to break the 500hp mark. __________________ 1999 2500 Laramie 4x4, Longbed, nv4500, goose neck hitch, boost/pyro gauges, raptor 100.

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dieselsoon Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 179 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts dieselsoon's Truck Pics	raptor 150 going in friday, and a write up. Non drawstraw install. If you cant control your urge or can swallow your pride when a pos ricer revs it up and launches out of a light next to you then dont get the juice. I had severel chances but i controlled my self and didnt punch it. But after friday its game time!! __________________ 98.5 (2wd) (ext.cab. black) 3:55 gears, the legendary hiperf 53 block, 5 speed, edge juice w/ attitude- full mbrp exhaust- ats intake manifold, kn intake, raptor 150/draw straw 1

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