Chip Stacking?? Look Here!!

BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 12:41 PM

Ok, I have seen a TON of "Can i stack this with that threads". (mainly a smarty with some type of fuel/timing box). So, I thoughs Id do my best to clear this up a little.

To make power you need 2 things, fuel, and timing. Some boxes add both (Edge Comp, Quadzilla ADR., or the Smarty). Some add just fuel (Blue Chips Redline, TST PM3) some add just timing (Edge EZ or Power Puck)

You can stack more than one fuel application. Like a Redline/Smarty (on the even numbers). Timing on the other hand, you can only have one application. A Smarty (on sw9) will not stack with an Edge Comp. You will over time the engine, and could seriously hurt it.

You can only tap your pump wire with one box. A TST PM3 will not stack with a Blue Chip Redline because both need pump taps. The same things goes for OBD2 programers, you cant stack a Smarty with a Superchip. So, one pump tap at a time, and one programer at a time.

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I hope that helps a little, and gets you started in the right direction. Happy stackin'

mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 02:14 PM

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

RollinCole · 10-22-2009, 02:15 PM

Thanks for this there have been way to many of those threads here lately

mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 02:18 PM

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollinCole

Thanks for this there have been way to many of those threads here lately

thats kinda what i saw, and wanted to clear up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

i hope so.

***johnyb59*** · 10-22-2009, 03:14 PM

That link should be a sticky

STRAIGHT6BEAST · 10-22-2009, 04:07 PM

Yeah they need to sticky this, i see a new thread everyday. If its not at the top of the page eveyone starts a new thread like the search button doesnt exist.

CumminsOrNothin · 10-22-2009, 04:15 PM

Yes sticky this so people wont thread, do a little research on there own. Good Job

RollinCole · 10-22-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

I would like to know more about this.......

Drew92 · 10-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Good idea for a thread

here's a BTT before it becomes a sticky

BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 05:23 PM

thanks for all the positive feedback yall

Shainer · 10-22-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

So you are saying that the VP-44 can't physically provide enough timing advance to hurt anything? I'm not sure I buy that. I've heard some pretty bad timing rattles before.

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BlackedOut02 Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: IM ON A BOAT!! Posts: 3,862 Thanks: 83 Thanked 246 Times in 150 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews BlackedOut02's Truck Pics	Chip Stacking?? Look Here!! Ok, I have seen a TON of "Can i stack this with that threads". (mainly a smarty with some type of fuel/timing box). So, I thoughs Id do my best to clear this up a little. To make power you need 2 things, fuel, and timing. Some boxes add both (Edge Comp, Quadzilla ADR., or the Smarty). Some add just fuel (Blue Chips Redline, TST PM3) some add just timing (Edge EZ or Power Puck) You can stack more than one fuel application. Like a Redline/Smarty (on the even numbers). Timing on the other hand, you can only have one application. A Smarty (on sw9) will not stack with an Edge Comp. You will over time the engine, and could seriously hurt it. You can only tap your pump wire with one box. A TST PM3 will not stack with a Blue Chip Redline because both need pump taps. The same things goes for OBD2 programers, you cant stack a Smarty with a Superchip. So, one pump tap at a time, and one programer at a time. Dodge Cummins Stacks I hope that helps a little, and gets you started in the right direction. Happy stackin' __________________ Tow/DD: '02 \| QCSB \| Southbend \| Amsoil Project "4 Scott": '90 Yota Pickup \| 4.7 V8 \| 1 Tons \| 4 link \| Full Hydro \| Atals 2 \| Custom Frame \| Full Exo \| MUCH more to come Last edited by BlackedOut02; 10-22-2009 at 03:29 PM.

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mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 6,271 Thanks: 48 Thanked 329 Times in 218 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews mjd91's Truck Pics	I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything. __________________ Cheap and fast is not reliable, fast and reliable is not cheap, reliable and cheap is not fast...

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