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BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 01:41 PM

Ok, I have seen a TON of "Can i stack this with that threads". (mainly a smarty with some type of fuel/timing box). So, I thoughs Id do my best to clear this up a little.

To make power you need 2 things, fuel, and timing. Some boxes add both (Edge Comp, Quadzilla ADR., or the Smarty). Some add just fuel (Blue Chips Redline, TST PM3) some add just timing (Edge EZ or Power Puck)

You can stack more than one fuel application. Like a Redline/Smarty (on the even numbers). Timing on the other hand, you can only have one application. A Smarty (on sw9) will not stack with an Edge Comp. You will over time the engine, and could seriously hurt it.

You can only tap your pump wire with one box. A TST PM3 will not stack with a Blue Chip Redline because both need pump taps. The same things goes for OBD2 programers, you cant stack a Smarty with a Superchip. So, one pump tap at a time, and one programer at a time.

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I hope that helps a little, and gets you started in the right direction. Happy stackin'

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mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 03:14 PM

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

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RollinCole · 10-22-2009, 03:15 PM

Thanks for this there have been way to many of those threads here lately

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mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 03:18 PM

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

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BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollinCole

Thanks for this there have been way to many of those threads here lately

thats kinda what i saw, and wanted to clear up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

i hope so.

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***johnyb59*** · 10-22-2009, 04:14 PM

That link should be a sticky

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STRAIGHT6BEAST · 10-22-2009, 05:07 PM

Yeah they need to sticky this, i see a new thread everyday. If its not at the top of the page eveyone starts a new thread like the search button doesnt exist.

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CumminsOrNothin · 10-22-2009, 05:15 PM

Yes sticky this so people wont thread, do a little research on there own. Good Job

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RollinCole · 10-22-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

I would like to know more about this.......

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Drew92 · 10-22-2009, 05:43 PM

Good idea for a thread

here's a BTT before it becomes a sticky

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BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 06:23 PM

thanks for all the positive feedback yall

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Shainer · 10-22-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjd91

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

So you are saying that the VP-44 can't physically provide enough timing advance to hurt anything? I'm not sure I buy that. I've heard some pretty bad timing rattles before.

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BlackedOut02 Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the Effin Getto, LA Posts: 2,497 Thanks: 38 Thanked 56 Times in 42 Posts BlackedOut02's Truck Pics	Chip Stacking?? Look Here!! Ok, I have seen a TON of "Can i stack this with that threads". (mainly a smarty with some type of fuel/timing box). So, I thoughs Id do my best to clear this up a little. To make power you need 2 things, fuel, and timing. Some boxes add both (Edge Comp, Quadzilla ADR., or the Smarty). Some add just fuel (Blue Chips Redline, TST PM3) some add just timing (Edge EZ or Power Puck) You can stack more than one fuel application. Like a Redline/Smarty (on the even numbers). Timing on the other hand, you can only have one application. A Smarty (on sw9) will not stack with an Edge Comp. You will over time the engine, and could seriously hurt it. You can only tap your pump wire with one box. A TST PM3 will not stack with a Blue Chip Redline because both need pump taps. The same things goes for OBD2 programers, you cant stack a Smarty with a Superchip. So, one pump tap at a time, and one programer at a time. Dodge Cummins Stacks I hope that helps a little, and gets you started in the right direction. Happy stackin' __________________ '02 \| 2WD \| 2500 \| NV4500 "Diesels dont run away. Diesels over speed, mechanics run away" Last edited by BlackedOut02 : 10-22-2009 at 04:29 PM.

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mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,871 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything. __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

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mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,871 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion. __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

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*johnyb59* Overfueled N under-aired Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seymour, IN Posts: 652 Thanks: 11 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts johnyb59's Truck Pics	That link should be a sticky __________________ 2001 SRW QCLB 150 hp jammer nozzles, 120 hp quad stacked w/ 65 hp xzt+, tst stealth plate, walbro lift pump, leveling kit, autometer has all the gauges covered, Valair ceramic, 4" straight pipe, stock turbo "If it weren't for the United States military, there'd be NO United States of America."

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