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mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 06:51 PM

I can't remember the thread it was in but if I come across it again I'll post it here.

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BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd91

I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

sorry i missed your post

. smarty timing + more timing =

the first time i was playing with my smarty/drag comp (not knowing what i was doing) i tryed an odd number

. it sounded like the overhead wanted to come through the hood.

the vp will advance far enough to hurt the engine. i wouldnt run more than one timing adder on my truck. (jmo)

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mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 07:05 PM

Yeah I'm not speaking from experience nor would I try it but I'm just passing on a little info I've heard a couple times.

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mjd91 · 10-22-2009, 07:09 PM

Check out the last post in this thread.
Has anyone stacked the adrenaline with a smarty?

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Shainer · 10-22-2009, 09:55 PM

I don't see anything about that. Post #12 is BS in my opinion. 62lbs of boost with just a stack? Not possible. That takes injectors.

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BlackedOut02 · 10-22-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd91

Check out the last post in this thread.
Has anyone stacked the adrenaline with a smarty?

yeah.... i would take post 12 with a grain of salt. unless he knows somthing we dont...

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mjd91 · 10-23-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shainer

I don't see anything about that. Post #12 is BS in my opinion. 62lbs of boost with just a stack? Not possible. That takes injectors.

M5's= Mach 5's
and it says adrenaline on kill (everything) and smarty with timing on 4.

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mjd91 · 10-23-2009, 12:45 AM

It's in this thread too.
comp box and smarty?

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BlackedOut02 · 10-23-2009, 01:07 AM

hua... id like to talk to that guy. he may have big lines, and tubes also. (which retard timing) so that might be why he can run his timing that advanced. he is mechanicaly retatding his timing, so he can electronicaly advance his timing.

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runit02 · 10-23-2009, 04:26 AM

My experience when stacking timing with timing was the truck rattled like it was 20* outside and it fell on its face at about 2000 rpm.....

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**patracy** · 10-23-2009, 06:31 AM

BlackedOut02 poaching my spreadsheet huh?

I had made a thread about this in the past. The spreadsheet is just a work of my best knowledge and advice from others. So don't hold it as the absolute truth on the matter. If anyone has suggestions/corrections, please let me know.

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RollinCole · 10-23-2009, 12:09 PM

So when everybody puts bigger tubes and lines on and they say there was no power gain is that beacause they actually retarded the timing ...so when you put the bigger lines on and then bumped the timing back up where it should be you would probably notice a power gain ????? Let me know if this is correct or just bass ackwards

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10-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,867 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	I can't remember the thread it was in but if I come across it again I'll post it here. __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

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10-22-2009, 07:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,867 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	Yeah I'm not speaking from experience nor would I try it but I'm just passing on a little info I've heard a couple times. __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

10-22-2009, 07:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,867 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	Check out the last post in this thread. Has anyone stacked the adrenaline with a smarty? __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

10-22-2009, 09:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
Shainer Diesel Head Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,608 Thanks: 22 Thanked 87 Times in 71 Posts Shainer's Truck Pics	I don't see anything about that. Post #12 is BS in my opinion. 62lbs of boost with just a stack? Not possible. That takes injectors. __________________ '98 24v. 5 speed. 4" exhaust. Some extra air and fuel here and there... The anti-Union.

10-23-2009, 12:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
mjd91 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Copperas cove, Texas Posts: 3,867 Thanks: 15 Thanked 118 Times in 91 Posts mjd91's Truck Pics	It's in this thread too. comp box and smarty? __________________ 2000 short, 4x4, 6 speed, 12.25" DD Valair, S.O.VP44, AEM Brute Force HD, FBD 5" with 6" tip, ADRENALINE!!!, AirDog II 165, AutoMeter Cobalts, 35" Mud Grapplers on 18" Black XD Diesels

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BlackedOut02 Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the Effin Getto, LA Posts: 2,494 Thanks: 38 Thanked 51 Times in 39 Posts BlackedOut02's Truck Pics	hua... id like to talk to that guy. he may have big lines, and tubes also. (which retard timing) so that might be why he can run his timing that advanced. he is mechanicaly retatding his timing, so he can electronicaly advance his timing. __________________ '02 \| 2WD \| 2500 \| NV4500 "Diesels dont run away. Diesels over speed, mechanics run away"

10-23-2009, 04:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
runit02 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 238 Thanks: 61 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts runit02's Truck Pics	My experience when stacking timing with timing was the truck rattled like it was 20* outside and it fell on its face at about 2000 rpm..... __________________ 99 2wd cclb auto Smarty, 4"exh w/banks elbow II S.O pump DDRP 02 4wd 6spd. H.O Silver bullet (RIP) Injectors from stock to +400 Fass 150 w/draw straw, studs, wasted motor for now

10-23-2009, 06:31 AM	#23 (permalink)
patracy GA VP...so close to 500hp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Buchanan, GA Posts: 3,718 Thanks: 30 Thanked 253 Times in 107 Posts patracy's Truck Pics	BlackedOut02 poaching my spreadsheet huh? I had made a thread about this in the past. The spreadsheet is just a work of my best knowledge and advice from others. So don't hold it as the absolute truth on the matter. If anyone has suggestions/corrections, please let me know. __________________ 1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse , BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

10-23-2009, 12:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
RollinCole Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 623 Thanks: 4 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts RollinCole's Truck Pics	So when everybody puts bigger tubes and lines on and they say there was no power gain is that beacause they actually retarded the timing ...so when you put the bigger lines on and then bumped the timing back up where it should be you would probably notice a power gain ????? Let me know if this is correct or just bass ackwards __________________ 2001 2500 4X4, 47re, Adrenaline/Pulse, HTT 66, Bd Rad, BD 3 piece exhaust manifold, banks high ram, 5" strait pipe, BAMF INTAKE, Mallory comp fuel pump, billet TC, Lock up switch, suncoast VB, 0.093 tubes, level kit, 35s & 20s..