He351ve? Upgrade or no? - Page 3

***MCummings*** · 10-08-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deerefanatic

Well, I saw it on a youtube video... I'll explain it here and try and find the video too at some point....

It consists of s light spring that holds the vanes wide open when the throttle is totally relaxed.. This provides the failsafe if something breaks, and also keeps the turbo from choking the motor when idling... Then, you have a throttle cable attached to the vanes with a fairly decent spring.... That way, when you mash the go pedal, it closes the vanes up for fast spool... The further down you mash the pedal, the tighter the vanes close. Then you have a standard wastegate actuator that pushes the vanes back open as the boost comes up where you want it.... This prevents over-boost.

With this setup, you also don't have to worry about the turbo barking very easily as when you let up on the throttle, the vanes immediately open up wide...

For engine breaking, you put a 12 volt pull type solenoid on the vane control arm that pulls the vanes all the way shut when you let up on the throttle, creating the restriction and engine braking.... You have a toggle switch to enable/disable this option.

I hope that's clear enough to understand... The video shows it better... I'll try and find it.

I'm really interested in doing this. Sounds real good. Me likey. No only could the exhaust brake be used for the brake, but, maybe with some experimenting, for smokeless spoolup?

Merrick

__________________
'98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed
Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...

sooter · 10-09-2009, 10:43 PM

anything's possible

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Early 04 2500 CA/235 graphite QC shorty 4x4 stock 48re, carter p4601hp pusher pump, 2nd gen exhaust manifold, smarty tnt, he351ve VGT single turbo, mechanical boost actuator, custom adapter, custom downpipe, etc.

deerefanatic · 10-09-2009, 11:06 PM

I'm not making alot of progress right now.. I'm working on trying to get broken farm equipment fixed and get my wood boiler system buttoned up for winter (already burning in it right now... Goin' on two weeks of burning wood. It's gettin cold up here!

)

I'm hopin' to maybe get the adapter finished Sunday afternoon if possible.... Then I get to start workin' on the control system.. yeah..........

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-Matt
1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

***MCummings*** · 10-10-2009, 12:54 AM

Build me an adaptor to please

I can paypal you the $ plus the fee's.

I'm wanting to do this to the wifes 12v as soon as funds and parts become available

I really just need the adaptor, and a slightly more detailed write up on the springs/solenoid setup.

I can get the downpipe, airfilter tubing and turbo to intercooler piping done here locally.

Merrick

__________________
'98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed
Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...

deerefanatic · 10-10-2009, 10:02 AM

OK, consider yourself on the list... Guess I'll have to get ahold of the machinist monday and get him cracking on a second adapter...

I'll PM you when I'm ready for you to send money......

__________________
-Matt
1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

**patracy** · 10-10-2009, 06:47 PM

And idea the cost? If it isn't sky high, add another one...

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1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse

, BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

deerefanatic · 10-10-2009, 11:05 PM

Well, I Pay the machinist $50 for each pair of flanges... Then I have the cost of the tube stock (not much) and about 2 hours of my time...... Plus consumables on my welder and die-grinder........

So, not sure yet on cost really..... What do you all think would be fair? Better yet, wait till I post up pics of the piece to see if it's what you want.....

Part of the time-consuming side of this is all the work I'm doing to them to make them smooth and free-flowing inside... My goal is when it's done to not have any "edges" that can be felt with a fingertip.

__________________
-Matt
1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

**patracy** · 10-11-2009, 12:18 AM

Let's see some pics of it if you don't mind. Since I've already got my truck setup for an HE351cw, it should be pretty easy to get it in place.

__________________
1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse

, BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

deerefanatic · 10-11-2009, 10:47 PM

I'm not done with it yet.. I'm gonna put in some time after work here and hope to get the first one done early this week... Then post pics......

-Matt

__________________
-Matt
1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

***MCummings*** · 10-25-2009, 11:41 PM

Get any work done on that adapter?

Merrick

__________________
'98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed
Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...

Last edited by MCummings : 10-25-2009 at 11:47 PM.

deerefanatic · 11-04-2009, 08:29 AM

No, I haven't..... Do to some "friction" between the bosses wife and I, I'm choosing NOT to use ANY of the resources at work for personal after work projects...

But, I have a new MIG welder on the way for myself..... I'm hoping to get back to it really soon as I have about 3 other jobs pressing as well that need done around here...... Haven't forgotten you all, just letting you know what's up!

-Matt

__________________
-Matt
1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

***MCummings*** · 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM

I ordered my two weldable turbo flanges and turbo already. No need to worry about me yet....

I am waiting on the flange for the 6.7 turbo side and then a few trips to my friend at the muffler shop, and machine shop, and I think we'll be good to go...

If you have a day it might be ready feel free to post it up. Might get one from you after all...

Merrick

__________________
'98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed
Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...

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10-09-2009, 10:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
sooter Diesel Freak Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seacoast, NH Posts: 853 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts sooter's Truck Pics	anything's possible __________________ Early 04 2500 CA/235 graphite QC shorty 4x4 stock 48re, carter p4601hp pusher pump, 2nd gen exhaust manifold, smarty tnt, he351ve VGT single turbo, mechanical boost actuator, custom adapter, custom downpipe, etc.

10-09-2009, 11:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 189 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post deerefanatic's Truck Pics	I'm not making alot of progress right now.. I'm working on trying to get broken farm equipment fixed and get my wood boiler system buttoned up for winter (already burning in it right now... Goin' on two weeks of burning wood. It's gettin cold up here! ) I'm hopin' to maybe get the adapter finished Sunday afternoon if possible.... Then I get to start workin' on the control system.. yeah.......... __________________ -Matt 1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

10-10-2009, 12:54 AM	#28 (permalink)
*MCummings* It's my name ^ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Laredo, Tx Posts: 1,209 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts MCummings's Truck Pics	Build me an adaptor to please I can paypal you the $ plus the fee's. I'm wanting to do this to the wifes 12v as soon as funds and parts become available I really just need the adaptor, and a slightly more detailed write up on the springs/solenoid setup. I can get the downpipe, airfilter tubing and turbo to intercooler piping done here locally. Merrick __________________ '98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...

10-10-2009, 10:02 AM	#29 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 189 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post deerefanatic's Truck Pics	OK, consider yourself on the list... Guess I'll have to get ahold of the machinist monday and get him cracking on a second adapter... I'll PM you when I'm ready for you to send money...... __________________ -Matt 1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

10-10-2009, 06:47 PM	#30 (permalink)
patracy GA VP...so close to 500hp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Buchanan, GA Posts: 3,729 Thanks: 30 Thanked 254 Times in 108 Posts patracy's Truck Pics	And idea the cost? If it isn't sky high, add another one... __________________ 1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse , BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

10-10-2009, 11:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 189 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post deerefanatic's Truck Pics	Well, I Pay the machinist $50 for each pair of flanges... Then I have the cost of the tube stock (not much) and about 2 hours of my time...... Plus consumables on my welder and die-grinder........ So, not sure yet on cost really..... What do you all think would be fair? Better yet, wait till I post up pics of the piece to see if it's what you want..... Part of the time-consuming side of this is all the work I'm doing to them to make them smooth and free-flowing inside... My goal is when it's done to not have any "edges" that can be felt with a fingertip. __________________ -Matt 1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

10-11-2009, 12:18 AM	#32 (permalink)
patracy GA VP...so close to 500hp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Buchanan, GA Posts: 3,729 Thanks: 30 Thanked 254 Times in 108 Posts patracy's Truck Pics	Let's see some pics of it if you don't mind. Since I've already got my truck setup for an HE351cw, it should be pretty easy to get it in place. __________________ 1999 2500 4x4 Club Cab Sport. sorta functional ADRENALINE/pulse , BHAF, FBD 150 sticks, 3rd Gen HE351 retrofit, Hamilton 110lb valve springs, A1 head studs, 5" FBD exhaust, Isspro Boost and Drive pressure gauges, fuel pressure gauge, FP light, Mallory Comp 250 pump, 1/2" big line kit, Draw straw, TC lockup switch, Stealth VP plate, BD TC, BD VB, Billet input, Derale pan. 462hp and 920ft-lbs 11/14/09, I know I can get 500hp...

10-11-2009, 10:47 PM	#33 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 189 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post deerefanatic's Truck Pics	I'm not done with it yet.. I'm gonna put in some time after work here and hope to get the first one done early this week... Then post pics...... -Matt __________________ -Matt 1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

10-25-2009, 11:41 PM	#34 (permalink)
*MCummings* It's my name ^ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Laredo, Tx Posts: 1,209 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts MCummings's Truck Pics	Get any work done on that adapter? Merrick __________________ '98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram... Last edited by MCummings : 10-25-2009 at 11:47 PM.

11-04-2009, 08:29 AM	#35 (permalink)
deerefanatic Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ladysmith, WI Posts: 189 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post deerefanatic's Truck Pics	No, I haven't..... Do to some "friction" between the bosses wife and I, I'm choosing NOT to use ANY of the resources at work for personal after work projects... But, I have a new MIG welder on the way for myself..... I'm hoping to get back to it really soon as I have about 3 other jobs pressing as well that need done around here...... Haven't forgotten you all, just letting you know what's up! -Matt __________________ -Matt 1995 Chevy C1500 6.5L Turbo Diesel; 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD; 1947 Chevy 1.5 ton - Getting a 6BT

11-04-2009, 09:02 PM	#36 (permalink)
*MCummings* It's my name ^ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Laredo, Tx Posts: 1,209 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts MCummings's Truck Pics	I ordered my two weldable turbo flanges and turbo already. No need to worry about me yet.... I am waiting on the flange for the 6.7 turbo side and then a few trips to my friend at the muffler shop, and machine shop, and I think we'll be good to go... If you have a day it might be ready feel free to post it up. Might get one from you after all... Merrick __________________ '98.5 3500 2wd 6-speed Dual Wheels, turbo's, and clutch. Almost 500HP(497/1020). Looking for a 2010 Ram...