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Old 01-02-2009, 02:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who has the best VP44 pumps and why I'm looking at the one from BlueChip sounds about the best really explains what your getting others don't go into much detail in theirs
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marlin - I do not have any experience with it but the BD high performance VP-44 seems like an excellent choice. 90 day warranty and no problems tapping the wire. Anywhere from 80 to 100 hp gain. And I have spoken to John at Holland Court and he has positivie things to say about it. A customer of John's just averaged 26 mpg on the highway with it.

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I have got a few things from bluechip they are good people... They have good customer service..
They do sell a pump that gives you more hp to you have to call and ask about...
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The special X from blue chip is a good pump, but they don't work on HO electronics, for some reason. Put one on my Ford about 8 months ago, I love it.
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The blue chip "upgraded VP44" from all my reading on his site, and from my experience today, is simply a totally re-manned/new VP44 from Bosch. Bosch now uses the steel bushing in the timing piston, as well as the steel bushing by the diaphram. How do I know? I spent the afternoon at a Bosch certified service facility getting another one. The man that does it walked me through his shop showing me the equipment and testing stations. At that facility, everything is done, and he told me that Bosch now mandates that a re-man gets all the parts and work they do over there.

***The FedEX situation with the computers was also explained to me, after he quit laughing. It was UPS in fact, not FedEX that requested the change. The change made was not because of failures, ALL new Bosch computers have the update. UPS requested that the computer log how many times the VP44 starts and stops, and they made that number avaliable to the techs in the UPS service centers, so that when the pump has been started/stopped/ran so many times/so long they could track it and replace it at a pre-specified number, to prevent the chance of failures on trucks in the field with a worn out pump. I don't know what drivetrain either FedEX or UPS use. Might vary.

The new computers are delivered to EVERY certified service facility that remanufactures them. They are actually blank, and the facility actually "burns" the necessary programming into the pump for its specific application. They do this because the system is used on not only trucks, but also things like marine applications and generators, pumps, etc. Logistically Bosch sends "blank" computers to the service shops to program them to whatever the customers application is.

It was really really cool to get the tour from the owner of the company and see how it really works, the test unit and rebuild benches are incredible! Super nice guy, and I walked out with a totally new VP44 because mine went POOF the other day.

I am in no way saying anything about ANY of the vendors on this site, I'm just clarifying what is going on with the new VP44s, according to the buisness owner.

From what he has told me is that anybody who orders a pump needs to make sure that it does have a new computer, if not, it did not go through a certified Bosch re-man shop, and might not have all the needed mechanical updates. Just be sure to ask, all the guys I talked to about my truck on here are great, I just chose these guys because I could pick the pump up myself and talk to the man in person.

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The blue chip "upgraded VP44" from all my reading on his site, and from my experience today, is simply a totally re-manned/new VP44 from Bosch. Bosch now uses the steel bushing in the timing piston, as well as the steel bushing by the diaphram. How do I know? I spent the afternoon at a Bosch certified service facility getting another one. The man that does it walked me through his shop showing me the equipment and testing stations. At that facility, everything is done, and he told me that Bosch now mandates that a re-man gets all the parts and work they do over there.

***The FedEX situation with the computers was also explained to me, after he quit laughing. It was UPS in fact, not FedEX that requested the change. The change made was not because of failures, ALL new Bosch computers have the update. UPS requested that the computer log how many times the VP44 starts and stops, and they made that number avaliable to the techs in the UPS service centers, so that when the pump has been started/stopped/ran so many times/so long they could track it and replace it at a pre-specified number, to prevent the chance of failures on trucks in the field with a worn out pump. I don't know what drivetrain either FedEX or UPS use. Might vary.

The new computers are delivered to EVERY certified service facility that remanufactures them. They are actually blank, and the facility actually "burns" the necessary programming into the pump for its specific application. They do this because the system is used on not only trucks, but also things like marine applications and generators, pumps, etc. Logistically Bosch sends "blank" computers to the service shops to program them to whatever the customers application is.

It was really really cool to get the tour from the owner of the company and see how it really works, the test unit and rebuild benches are incredible! Super nice guy, and I walked out with a totally new VP44 because mine went POOF the other day.

I am in no way saying anything about ANY of the vendors on this site, I'm just clarifying what is going on with the new VP44s, according to the buisness owner.

From what he has told me is that anybody who orders a pump needs to make sure that it does have a new computer, if not, it did not go through a certified Bosch re-man shop, and might not have all the needed mechanical updates. Just be sure to ask, all the guys I talked to about my truck on here are great, I just chose these guys because I could pick the pump up myself and talk to the man in person.

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Sounds like that would have been a great learning opportunity. I can think of many questions I would have asked him. By the way, was yours painted black?
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Can we get a list of all the certified rebuilders/dealers? Where is this facility? Was it painted black? How do you know if you got an upgraded computer or not? Just because the salesman "tells" you it's new doesn't mean squat to me. Bluechip may be a little high but they do have great costumer service and when I bought mine it was warrantied with a pump cover if you wanted to tap the wire. I've ran 3 of Chips pumps on different truck with two of them tapped and never had a problem. I'm all about saving money on pumps but who can you trust these days?
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KATOOM: make a list of some questions you have and I'll ask the guy I'm going back in on Monday to tell him how my stuff is doing. Yes it was painted black.

KIPO: This facility is named "Diesel Injection Service"-orriginal I know, but they have been there doing buisness since 1942 so I trust his knowlege base. I know I got the upgraded computer, because every certified unit gets one, Bosch rules. They are programmed at the shop on Bosch equipment in house. He didn't tell me: he SHOWED me. Thats good buisness. I'm not knocking the Blue Chip stuff at all, I have no experience with them or reason to, just clarifying some stuff that was on the site.

I don't know the number of the shop offhand, but I will let you guys know tomorrow. He does just about everything, heavy equipment, big rigs-anything that uses diesel injection lol.
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marlin - I do not have any experience with it but the BD high performance VP-44 seems like an excellent choice. 90 day warranty and no problems tapping the wire. Anywhere from 80 to 100 hp gain. And I have spoken to John at Holland Court and he has positivie things to say about it. A customer of John's just averaged 26 mpg on the highway with it.



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I have the BD and you can definalty notice a difference in power, it feels smoother when you hammer the pedal too....now all i need are some new injectors
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