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Old 12-04-2010, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Y" to "T" Steering Upgrade-09/10 Steering Upgrade pkg used on a 2001

Does anyone else have any first hand experience with the swap described in this link?

http://www..com/5-9l-24v-bombs-after...ing-cheap.html

I've tried everything I can think of to get actual dimensions of the tie rod end taper big/small end diameters and taper length for the 2001-2 front axles to compare to either the 1999HD or 2009/10 Steering upgrade parts but can't verify they are interchangeable. The taper itself is the same but confirming all the other variables has been a challenge.

The person doing the 2009/10 install did his homework and appears to have done everything to confirm correct taper fit/seating. Can it possibly be this easy to switch our steering to a "T" configuration?

I would really appreciate hearing from someone who has access to the actual dimensions of both steering setups to confirm this before taking the plunge. Thx for any help available.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is what I did, 10x better than any factory steering setup, I love it and will never go back, Ill get some better pics later.



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Does anyone else have any first hand experience with the swap described in this link?

http://www..com/5-9l-24v-bombs-after...ing-cheap.html

I've tried everything I can think of to get actual dimensions of the tie rod end taper big/small end diameters and taper length for the 2001-2 front axles to compare to either the 1999HD or 2009/10 Steering upgrade parts but can't verify they are interchangeable. The taper itself is the same but confirming all the other variables has been a challenge.

The person doing the 2009/10 install did his homework and appears to have done everything to confirm correct taper fit/seating. Can it possibly be this easy to switch our steering to a "T" configuration?

I would really appreciate hearing from someone who has access to the actual dimensions of both steering setups to confirm this before taking the plunge. Thx for any help available.
Try this, much easier. Uses factory parts also. Ram Modifications
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I did this upgrade and love it. Not too pricey, not too difficult. No thinking involved, that's why I like it. Oh and my truck drives like a go kart now.
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i also did the conversion at mark74.com works perfectly. only problem is you dont have a steering stabalizer but IMHO you dont need one if everything is set up right. i have ZERO bump steer, and ZERO death wobble. of course my whole front end is new the 100% stock fords at work have gobs and gobs of bump steer and are a pain in the to drive on rough paved roads let alone crappy dirt roads. i just had my truck down to the cabin in WV on some pretty nasty back dirt roads and at 30MPH i had zero bump steer or anything with this steering set up. go with the 98-99 HD steering set up. you wont be dissapointed.
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This is what I did, 10x better than any factory steering setup, I love it and will never go back, Ill get some better pics later.



Definately a great set up here.. If you flipped your bolts around, you wouldnt lose one if the nut came loose.. And you wouldnt get loose nuts if you used lock nuts.. One last thing.. If you use safety washers, you wont loose a tie rod/draglink if you have a heim separation failure. Minor details.
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Various "T" style Steering Upgrades

What I was really looking for are the ACTUAL SPECS/DIMENSIONS of the tie rod end tapers for the 1999HD, 2002, and 2009/2010 (all 2500/3500 4x4) tie rod ends.
Are there any MOPAR techs. or Auto Parts gurus out there that have access to this info because I can find it anywhere on the web. I'm a numbers guy, and before doing a mod like this, I would like to confirm WITH SPECS that one of the mods matches IDENTICALLY to the stock 2002 tie rod end tapers.
I DON'T WANT TO DRILL OUT THE TAPERS, I want to match them CORRECTLY to a readily available MOPAR "T" steering setup, "just the facts".
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I dont have your numbers. but its a fact that the 98-99hd system fits on an 01, I have it on my truck, only part not used from the 98-99hd system is the tie rod at the pitman arm, for that you must use your 01 tie rod end, post number 3 has the same link I used to get my part numbers for it, another option is for you to pull your parts off and measure them, then use thoese numbers to compare to the new stuff,

as for the 08 stuff working I have no actual experience in that dept.
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I never took measurements but I was going to do the 98/99 upgrade to a friends 05 and it will not work. Went to the parts store and compared the 98/99 stuff to the 05 stuff and one of the ends has a much bigger tapered stud. I know guys do the 08/09 t style upgrade on the older 3rd gens so I assume they have the same bores and tapered studs but I have not compared them so I cannot confirm. It is my understanding from the fronts I have done that if you want the T style on a 2nd gen you have to use 98/99 stuff, and if you want it on a 3rd gen you have to use 08/09 stuff.
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i also did the conversion at mark74.com works perfectly. only problem is you dont have a steering stabalizer but IMHO you dont need one if everything is set up right. i have ZERO bump steer, and ZERO death wobble. of course my whole front end is new the 100% stock fords at work have gobs and gobs of bump steer and are a pain in the to drive on rough paved roads let alone crappy dirt roads. i just had my truck down to the cabin in WV on some pretty nasty back dirt roads and at 30MPH i had zero bump steer or anything with this steering set up. go with the 98-99 HD steering set up. you wont be dissapointed.
How much did you pay for everything? I was looking and found all the parts on amazon for $276. Is this a good price? I know you will loose the stock stabilizer but you can always buy an aftermarket one or even add duals and I have duals laying around so I could throw those on if I did this setup.
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This is what I did, 10x better than any factory steering setup, I love it and will never go back, Ill get some better pics later.



Post some more pictures and or information about this set-up! I like it!
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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this is the setup I have on mine. steers great
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