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Gary - K7GLD · 01-06-2006, 11:46 AM

NOW, let's address the concerns and old wives tales about use of TP as a filtering agent:

1. NO, the TP does NOT "fall apart" and all end up down in the oil pan and plugging oil galleries - paper normally is QUITE stable when exposed to oil - sometimes is even STRONGER oiled than it is dry! Ever notice what the stock filters are made of in our trucks? P-A-P-E-R!

Different structure, but PAPER just the same! AND , did you notice in the oil analysis posted earlier, the extremely LOW Insoluables numbers? That refers to stuff like soot and any OTHER contaminent - INCLUDING paper fibers!

2. "Toilet paper belongs in the outhouse!". OK, if you believe that, one of these TP and paper towel bypass filters is NOT for you - no problem, I don't sell them, and haven't the least to gain as to whether you use one or not - this thread is PURELY for information - not a sales pitch!

3. "Use of a bypass fIlter will void your warranty!" *I* haven't had the SLIGHTEST issue with my local dealerships with mine on about 6 different vehicles, including the last 2 Dodges - in fact, I usually get a big

from the service guys when they see that filter - BUT all dealerships are NOT the same, if you have concerns, ask your dealer, or DON'T USE one of these filters!

4. "Too much trouble and expense to change out the TP cartridge!" Well, if a 80 cent filter, and a $1.75 quart of oil and 15 minutes is too much, you probably won't like this filter - but for me and other users, the VASTLY cleaner oil is well worth the small extra effort and expense - YMMV!

For extra, independent reading on use of bypass filtering, try this:

http://p2library.nfesc.navy.mil/P2_O...ok/6_II_1.html

In a thread over on TDR similar to this, enough interest was generated that a group buy ended up with nearly 100 units bought immediately and in later followups - as I said, *I* have no financial interest in who does or does NOT want what a bypass filter provides - but if you ARE interested, contact www.wefilterit.com and ask for Deborah Harley - if you mention you were sent by Gary Davidson in Canyon City Oregon in regards to a group price for a filter, I'm pretty sure she will still honor the earlier special pricing, but I can't speak for her or guarantee a thing!

SO, have I taken earlier advice as to using good filtering on my engine to extend it's lifespan? Judge for yourself:

Some might laugh at that BHAF, the Frantz oil bypass and the Frantz fuel filter over on the right side as "overkill" - but it seems to me that after spending the $$$ we do to increase performance and add potential wear to the increasingly stressed engine the FEW extra dollars seen in mine to RESTORE some of that lifespan is hardly money wasted! Barring something well out of the ordinary, I feel this engine will still be going strong long after *I* am no longer around to use it - and THAT'S OK too!

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White '02 Quad cab, NV5600, GAUGES! Comp, Walbro, DTT SS intake, Rip's 4 in. exhaust, Don M's 1.6's, DSS, Frantz oil bypass & fuel filters, Amsoil air filter, MOBILE Ham Radio-IC-706, 600 watt amp, '88 Kit 24 ft. 5er, 418 HP/978 Tq., 24 ft KIT 5er.

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Gary - K7GLD Tech Specialist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canyon City Oregon Posts: 1,370 Gary - K7GLD's Truck Pics	NOW, let's address the concerns and old wives tales about use of TP as a filtering agent: 1. NO, the TP does NOT "fall apart" and all end up down in the oil pan and plugging oil galleries - paper normally is QUITE stable when exposed to oil - sometimes is even STRONGER oiled than it is dry! Ever notice what the stock filters are made of in our trucks? P-A-P-E-R! Different structure, but PAPER just the same! AND , did you notice in the oil analysis posted earlier, the extremely LOW Insoluables numbers? That refers to stuff like soot and any OTHER contaminent - INCLUDING paper fibers! 2. "Toilet paper belongs in the outhouse!". OK, if you believe that, one of these TP and paper towel bypass filters is NOT for you - no problem, I don't sell them, and haven't the least to gain as to whether you use one or not - this thread is PURELY for information - not a sales pitch! 3. "Use of a bypass fIlter will void your warranty!" I haven't had the SLIGHTEST issue with my local dealerships with mine on about 6 different vehicles, including the last 2 Dodges - in fact, I usually get a big from the service guys when they see that filter - BUT all dealerships are NOT the same, if you have concerns, ask your dealer, or DON'T USE one of these filters! 4. "Too much trouble and expense to change out the TP cartridge!" Well, if a 80 cent filter, and a $1.75 quart of oil and 15 minutes is too much, you probably won't like this filter - but for me and other users, the VASTLY cleaner oil is well worth the small extra effort and expense - YMMV! For extra, independent reading on use of bypass filtering, try this: http://p2library.nfesc.navy.mil/P2_O...ok/6_II_1.html In a thread over on TDR similar to this, enough interest was generated that a group buy ended up with nearly 100 units bought immediately and in later followups - as I said, I have no financial interest in who does or does NOT want what a bypass filter provides - but if you ARE interested, contact www.wefilterit.com and ask for Deborah Harley - if you mention you were sent by Gary Davidson in Canyon City Oregon in regards to a group price for a filter, I'm pretty sure she will still honor the earlier special pricing, but I can't speak for her or guarantee a thing! SO, have I taken earlier advice as to using good filtering on my engine to extend it's lifespan? Judge for yourself: Some might laugh at that BHAF, the Frantz oil bypass and the Frantz fuel filter over on the right side as "overkill" - but it seems to me that after spending the $$$ we do to increase performance and add potential wear to the increasingly stressed engine the FEW extra dollars seen in mine to RESTORE some of that lifespan is hardly money wasted! Barring something well out of the ordinary, I feel this engine will still be going strong long after I am no longer around to use it - and THAT'S OK too! __________________ White '02 Quad cab, NV5600, GAUGES! Comp, Walbro, DTT SS intake, Rip's 4 in. exhaust, Don M's 1.6's, DSS, Frantz oil bypass & fuel filters, Amsoil air filter, MOBILE Ham Radio-IC-706, 600 watt amp, '88 Kit 24 ft. 5er, 418 HP/978 Tq., 24 ft KIT 5er. Last edited by Gary - K7GLD : 01-06-2006 at 02:46 PM.