V10 to 12v swap? Motor mounts?

95WIP · 12-01-2011, 02:56 PM

I've searched and found some info on this. but I couldnt find anyone that mentioned everything needed for the swap. Or any pics
I'm lookin for a v10 Or blew up cummins truck to swap my 95 12v into it's 2wd and a rust bucket. I want 4x4 and not so much rust. Anyhow the v10 trucks are a little easier to find so that's probably what I'll end up using. I'm gonna try to find one around the same year if possible and use all wiring out of my 95. But Im wondering what to do with the motor mounts. I haven't found anything on if I can just bolt the cummins mounts on v10 frame or if it's harder than that. Any ideas to make the swap smoother would be great. BTW I have a manual trans and will be using a manual in the swap truck. Thanks

illflem · 12-01-2011, 07:25 PM

PM member here cumminsbeliever, he just finished doing the same swap.
Click> http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/pr...newpm&u=137129

cumminsbeliever · 12-02-2011, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the suggestion to contact me Bill. Welcome aboard 95WIP. I have about 2500 km's on since the swap and all seems ok.
I had 2 1995 trucks, one was the cummins and was 2wd and the other was a v10 4x4. I swapped the cummins into the 4x4 truck. The motor mounts are the same, no issues there. All i dod was disconnect the wiring harness from the 3 plugs at the brake booster and unplugged all the tranny wiring and rolled it up and put it on top of the cummins and hauled the engine out all together with the wiring attached.
When I put the cummins back into the v10 truck, i removed the engine side motor mounts so i did not have to raise the engine so high. then slid the engine in and put the mounts back on with the engine still on the hoist.
All plugs were the same under the hood, I did not change any wires in the cab.
The only issue i had was the plug to the VSS on the transfer case. they did not match, so I bought a plug from dodge and soldered the 3 wires and it worked perfectly.
The engine bolted to the 4x4 tranny without issues. I did keep the diesel torque converter as it has a lower stall and I believe the one from the v10 engine would rev too high.
I was told to swap out the valve bodies also, but have not done so yet and things seem ok.
I swapped out the dash cluster so it says "diesel fuel" in the tach. I then removed the ABS bulb from the rear of the cluster as the v10 truck did not have ABS. I put that bulb into the space for the 4x4 light so it will light up when I put it in 4x4.
I also swapped out the heater control as it has the water in fuel light and the wait to start light in the bottom part of it.
I used the same gas tank and just ran new fuel lines. The sending unit works fine, but the return line is a bit different in the top of the tank, but still fits.
The exhaust hangers are exactly the same.
I switched the front rad cradle with the rad and intercooler and fan shroud all in one piece. The fan shroud is not the same on the v10 as the coolant tank is attached to the fan shroud on the cummins and the tank on the v10 is on the fender.
I swapped over a second batter box and it bolted right in place as all the holes are already there on the v10 truck. The solenoids for the grid heaters bolt into holes that are already there on the drivers side.
No drilling or modifying of anything. The 4x4 v10 truck is much cheaper than the diesel version, so doing the swap was waaaay cheaper and a good "weekend project".
All in all, with new fuel lines and the plug for the VSS and the odd pipe clamp, I am into it for about $500.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask any questions you need. Good luck.

95WIP · 12-02-2011, 03:27 PM

Well, i guess that saves me a PM. Thank you very much. This is what i had hope to hear. Just hope i can find a 95 v10 truck to make everything smooth as possible.

cumminsbeliever · 12-02-2011, 03:58 PM

Make sure you change the exhaust back BEFORE you put the engine back, its a bear to put in from under the truck with the crossmember there. If you slip it in through the engine bay, it goes much easier.
I did not mention the heat exchanger on the side of the cummins engine for the coolant and transmission fluid, but that is straight forward. I am not even sure it is necessary as the v10 truck only had the trans cooler in front of the rad. I connected it for now, but might remove it in the summer.

One more issue was to add the auto trans temp sensor into the line of the tranny. The v10 did not have one, so i just cut the section of metal line with the sensor in it from the cummins truck and put it "in line" close to the tranny exit hose going to the cooler. Wont be an issue if you have the standard transmission.
If I think of anything else I will post it here, but I believe that was it.

95WIP · 12-02-2011, 04:28 PM

Well im using a manual trans so none of that will be an issue. thanks again

cumminsbeliever · 12-02-2011, 06:32 PM

please update you sig and let us know where you are and all your truck stats. And please let us know how it goes during your swap. This forum is incredible for info and there are so many qualified, professional people on here, its like your own service center and on call mechanic all rolled into one.

buuuuuuuuuub · 12-03-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cumminsbeliever

please update you sig and let us know where you are and all your truck stats. And please let us know how it goes during your swap. This forum is incredible for info and there are so many qualified, professional people on here, its like your own service center and on call mechanic all rolled into one.

will be doing a v10 cummins conversion in my truck as well! with auto tranny like yours. picking up the engine monday then it gets a rebuild and some tweaking and into the truck!

biff10 · 12-03-2011, 08:01 PM

I was talking to someone today and would like to do the motor swap also. he only has a long block motor. I will keep looking around. I have the 95 v-10 with a new trans in it. I am glad to hear if you have the same year the swap goes easier. I have also thought about selling and just getting a 12v truck.

buuuuuuuuuub · 12-03-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by biff10

I was talking to someone today and would like to do the motor swap also. he only has a long block motor. I will keep looking around. I have the 95 v-10 with a new trans in it. I am glad to hear if you have the same year the swap goes easier. I have also thought about selling and just getting a 12v truck.

doesnt really matter about year as long as its 94-98 it is really the same. as far as selling the truck, its not worth it the most i could get for mine was 3k. that wont buy a decent cummins. but i found a running engine for my truck

biff10 · 12-04-2011, 07:00 PM

I usally have extra cash in the spring. I may just start getting parts together for the swap. Good info on this site

pjdavis12 · 12-14-2012, 10:13 AM

i know this is an old thread but i am just about ready to swap a VE motor out of a first gen into a 94. i was just curious what you did about the fuel pump in your conversion. I thought the v10 had an electric fuel pump in the tank if you just used that? any help is appreciated