build my auto or nv4500 swap

rgreathouse · 07-03-2007, 03:51 PM

so my tq is slowly shuddering more and more so i took out my 100 plate and put in a tst#8 plate and its better but still shudders sometimes.so my dilema is in between a full goerend auto standard duty with billet tripple disk, just put a goerend tripple disk and valve body in,or a 5 speed swap.whats your guys opinion?if i do a nv4500 swap i know someone how just pulled there nv4500 in favor of a nv5600 and he will sell me the tranny ,crossmember, and southbend con fe with 13" flywheel for $500.but theres not much of the clutch left by the looks of it but he says it worked fine. ive read rightups on the swap and it seems somewhat straight forward.so my questions are if i go with just a goerend tc and vb should i be worried about the rest of my tranny? has 150k on it.or would the swap be worth it?can i buy just a clutch from southbend since i have the flywheel?if so how much is it?

what are your opions?

thanks for any input sorry for the long post ive been searching as much as possible and have come up with a list of questions

thanks

robert

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tractorpuller · 07-03-2007, 04:18 PM

Dont know wether i would swap or not but if you can get all that for 500 I would,just to have it, might make some money on it later on, unless its junk or something.

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ChillyDog · 07-03-2007, 04:46 PM

I just had my 5 speed swapped out for a full blown Goerend auto and I would never go back to the manual tranny. JMHO

Bill

rgreathouse · 07-04-2007, 12:50 AM

hmm well thats interesting to hear,do you have the standard duty tranny for like $3250?also this truck will be used for just a daily driver/work truck, pulling a ski boat on weekends,occasional car hauler. not much more pullin and hp goal of around 450.

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**Diesel Nut** · 07-04-2007, 01:08 AM

Personally, I would build the transmission. A conversion would be cool if you had something against the Auto, but the time to do it and the other parts, your going to be in the same ball park cost wise. Yeah, the transmission is $500, but you need a clutch. Also, the pedal assembly, and most likely the hydraulics too. Next, you will need the center floor console if thats not included and have to knock a hole in the floor. I defintly would not rush in on a conversion without seriously thinking it through.

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rgreathouse · 07-08-2007, 11:17 AM

any other input.kinda decided not to do the nv4500,but what do you think about puttin in goerend tc and vb versus full tranny?

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BBRam · 07-08-2007, 11:50 AM

If you can swing it, the full tran's is the way to go. Do it once. But as for the triple disk convertor, it's not needed, go with a single, it will do the job and save you some cash.

I had the 6 speed, swapped to the auto, I'll never go back.

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rgreathouse · 07-08-2007, 11:51 AM

does goerend have a single disk?if so how much is it and whats the waranty and hp rating?

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BBRam · 07-09-2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgreathouse

does goerend have a single disk?if so how much is it and whats the waranty and hp rating?

That I do not know, you'll have to call him on that one unless someone else know's.

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07-03-2007, 03:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
rgreathouse Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 rgreathouse's Truck Pics	build my auto or nv4500 swap so my tq is slowly shuddering more and more so i took out my 100 plate and put in a tst#8 plate and its better but still shudders sometimes.so my dilema is in between a full goerend auto standard duty with billet tripple disk, just put a goerend tripple disk and valve body in,or a 5 speed swap.whats your guys opinion?if i do a nv4500 swap i know someone how just pulled there nv4500 in favor of a nv5600 and he will sell me the tranny ,crossmember, and southbend con fe with 13" flywheel for $500.but theres not much of the clutch left by the looks of it but he says it worked fine. ive read rightups on the swap and it seems somewhat straight forward.so my questions are if i go with just a goerend tc and vb should i be worried about the rest of my tranny? has 150k on it.or would the swap be worth it?can i buy just a clutch from southbend since i have the flywheel?if so how much is it? what are your opions? thanks for any input sorry for the long post ive been searching as much as possible and have come up with a list of questions thanks robert __________________ 97 12v ctd, ex cab, long bed, 4x4,100 plate, straight pipe,silencer ring M.I.A,BHAF, autometer pyro, boost, tranny temp.

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07-03-2007, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
tractorpuller Cummins Nut Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 482 tractorpuller's Truck Pics	Dont know wether i would swap or not but if you can get all that for 500 I would,just to have it, might make some money on it later on, unless its junk or something. __________________ 97 extendedcab 4x4 auto;18*timing;SFS custom tuned afc custom ground plate;3k gsk; ISSPRO guages, 4" straight piped, bhaf, b&w gooseneck hitch, prodigy brake controller, kdp kia

07-03-2007, 04:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
ChillyDog Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 ChillyDog's Truck Pics	I just had my 5 speed swapped out for a full blown Goerend auto and I would never go back to the manual tranny. JMHO Bill

07-04-2007, 12:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
rgreathouse Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 rgreathouse's Truck Pics	hmm well thats interesting to hear,do you have the standard duty tranny for like $3250?also this truck will be used for just a daily driver/work truck, pulling a ski boat on weekends,occasional car hauler. not much more pullin and hp goal of around 450. __________________ 97 12v ctd, ex cab, long bed, 4x4,100 plate, straight pipe,silencer ring M.I.A,BHAF, autometer pyro, boost, tranny temp.

07-04-2007, 01:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Diesel Nut Diesel Nut Motorsports Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 3,602 Diesel Nut's Truck Pics	Personally, I would build the transmission. A conversion would be cool if you had something against the Auto, but the time to do it and the other parts, your going to be in the same ball park cost wise. Yeah, the transmission is $500, but you need a clutch. Also, the pedal assembly, and most likely the hydraulics too. Next, you will need the center floor console if thats not included and have to knock a hole in the floor. I defintly would not rush in on a conversion without seriously thinking it through. __________________ Diesel Nut Motorsports.com Everything you need for your diesel. Performance, mileage or repairs, we have it! 1-800-450-7036 Our Amsoil webpage Become an Amsoil Preferred Customer Become an Amsoil Dealer 1990 Reg Cab - Project Truck 1991.5 Reg Cab - Parts Runner 2006 Quad Cab

07-08-2007, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
rgreathouse Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 rgreathouse's Truck Pics	any other input.kinda decided not to do the nv4500,but what do you think about puttin in goerend tc and vb versus full tranny? __________________ 97 12v ctd, ex cab, long bed, 4x4,100 plate, straight pipe,silencer ring M.I.A,BHAF, autometer pyro, boost, tranny temp.

07-08-2007, 11:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
BBRam Super Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelsea MI Posts: 16,280 BBRam's Truck Pics	If you can swing it, the full tran's is the way to go. Do it once. But as for the triple disk convertor, it's not needed, go with a single, it will do the job and save you some cash. I had the 6 speed, swapped to the auto, I'll never go back. __________________ 03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

07-08-2007, 11:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
rgreathouse Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 rgreathouse's Truck Pics	does goerend have a single disk?if so how much is it and whats the waranty and hp rating? __________________ 97 12v ctd, ex cab, long bed, 4x4,100 plate, straight pipe,silencer ring M.I.A,BHAF, autometer pyro, boost, tranny temp.