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12v1500 · 07-02-2007, 05:14 PM

i just had my tranny build and i dont think its right !! correct me if im wrong but when the converter locks up say at 55mph and i get on it the rpm's and mph should move close to the same on the dash ??? when i hit mine it starts pulling and when boost builds the rpm's jump about 400-500 rpm's idk much about trannys but my brother had his build by suncoast and it deff. dont fill the same

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**Diesel Nut** · 07-02-2007, 06:21 PM

Sounds like either the converter isn't locking or its slipping. You should feel it shudder if its slipping.

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sooter · 07-02-2007, 07:37 PM

it wont necessarily shudder...it will overtime as the converter clutch warps from the heat...but yes, it sounds like it's slipping. whether it's the converter clutch or the clutch packs i don't know.

what's in the tranny? when it's built...is it BUILT or is it just a stock rebuild?

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12v1500 · 07-03-2007, 02:45 PM

its got a new triple disk converter ,all new raybestest blue somethin clutch pack or plates and he added an extra plate in the basket too !! idk much about trannys sorry !! but it does'nt shutter or anything !!! when i take off from a stop at wot it dont seem to slip in first it shifts to second nice and firm and the rpm's fall acouple hundred then the 2-3 shift it dont shift hard at all and the rpm's only drop 50 maybe then it shifts to four firm and locks up and the rpm's fall about 600 and it pulls like a raped ape !!! idfk im kinda pissed off after all that money !!! could it be because he used a stock valve body ??

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sooter · 07-03-2007, 08:13 PM

yup. let me guess..there's no shift kit in it? i bet the pressures aren't up to par with the extra power.

give an aftermarket company a call...suncoast, goerend, dtt, etc. and put in an aftermarket valve body to up the pressures, get it shifting right, etc. ...or at the very least put a shift kit in it. (a lower stall converter will put more pressure on the clutch packs and will make them slip anymore if the stock pressure hasn't been modified).

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**Diesel Nut** · 07-03-2007, 08:21 PM

Who built it and what did it cost? You can PM that info. I am just trying to get an idea of what is in the transmission. Do you still have the reciept? It should be itemized with all the parts he billed you for and then the labor should be listed and any hazmat fees.

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pro99 · 07-03-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12v1500

its got a new triple disk converter ,all new raybestest blue somethin clutch pack or plates and he added an extra plate in the basket too !! idk much about trannys sorry !! but it does'nt shutter or anything !!! when i take off from a stop at wot it dont seem to slip in first it shifts to second nice and firm and the rpm's fall acouple hundred then the 2-3 shift it dont shift hard at all and the rpm's only drop 50 maybe then it shifts to four firm and locks up and the rpm's fall about 600 and it pulls like a raped ape !!! idfk im kinda pissed off after all that money !!! could it be because he used a stock valve body ??

You could have a concern with direct clutches now. What does the fluid smell like now and color? Did he go into the O/D unit? I hate to say but you may have to put a pressure gauge on it to see whats going on for pressure. With what you have done to the motor you need allot more line pressure than stock!

Sorry to hear this

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12v1500 · 07-05-2007, 06:05 PM

I paid $2500 he put a triple disk converter was $875, a extra clutch plate along with all new plate they where raybestest blue something , all new sensors,solnoids,gaskets that price was him pullin it out and reinstalling it ! the fluid smells and looks good ! i dont now if he messed with the od unit !

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DieselDood · 07-05-2007, 06:12 PM

Sorry man but you get what you pay for, $875 for a triple disc? I don't think so. Even the cheap aftermarket converters were more than that last time I checked.

Sounds to me like your driving through the converter lock up clutch.

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pro99 · 07-06-2007, 10:06 AM

Reading his post when it hit's 3rd gear is doesn't drop but 50 rpm's? It doesn't sound like a T/C to me at that time. Not saying he not slipping it when he lock up but 3rd should drop 250 to 300.

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12v1500 · 07-06-2007, 02:23 PM

i pulled about 15000lbs with it today it deff still slips !! the trans temp only got to 165 ! i thought if a trans is slipping it would get hotter !

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Racer9 · 07-06-2007, 04:31 PM

Have you talked to the trans builder?
He built it, and should be able to make it work properly.
May just need an adjustment, but it sounds like either the TC or O/D slipping.

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07-02-2007, 05:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
12v1500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tampa Posts: 55 12v1500's Truck Pics	built tranny i just had my tranny build and i dont think its right !! correct me if im wrong but when the converter locks up say at 55mph and i get on it the rpm's and mph should move close to the same on the dash ??? when i hit mine it starts pulling and when boost builds the rpm's jump about 400-500 rpm's idk much about trannys but my brother had his build by suncoast and it deff. dont fill the same __________________ 97 sc 4x4 no plate,no afc,370's,htt64/14 ,6in. stack ,bhaf, 4500gsk, mack plug ,50 pounds ,built tranny and converter,full cut dv's,twisted barrels,22DEG TIMING ,and a 50shot on the way !!!

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07-02-2007, 06:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Diesel Nut Diesel Nut Motorsports Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 3,602 Diesel Nut's Truck Pics	Sounds like either the converter isn't locking or its slipping. You should feel it shudder if its slipping. __________________ Diesel Nut Motorsports.com Everything you need for your diesel. Performance, mileage or repairs, we have it! 1-800-450-7036 Our Amsoil webpage Become an Amsoil Preferred Customer Become an Amsoil Dealer 1990 Reg Cab - Project Truck 1991.5 Reg Cab - Parts Runner 2006 Quad Cab

07-02-2007, 07:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
sooter Cummins Nut Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: new hampster Posts: 408 sooter's Truck Pics	it wont necessarily shudder...it will overtime as the converter clutch warps from the heat...but yes, it sounds like it's slipping. whether it's the converter clutch or the clutch packs i don't know. what's in the tranny? when it's built...is it BUILT or is it just a stock rebuild? __________________ 01 3500 HO 4x4 sport that lived up to my name "sooter" - traded 04 2500 CA/235 graphite QC shorty 4x4--53Willy's intake, 4" TBE w/resonator, custom built downpipe, 2nd gen exhaust manifold, and a mild box, 285/70/17 Hankook Dynapro MTs.

07-03-2007, 02:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
12v1500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tampa Posts: 55 12v1500's Truck Pics	its got a new triple disk converter ,all new raybestest blue somethin clutch pack or plates and he added an extra plate in the basket too !! idk much about trannys sorry !! but it does'nt shutter or anything !!! when i take off from a stop at wot it dont seem to slip in first it shifts to second nice and firm and the rpm's fall acouple hundred then the 2-3 shift it dont shift hard at all and the rpm's only drop 50 maybe then it shifts to four firm and locks up and the rpm's fall about 600 and it pulls like a raped ape !!! idfk im kinda pissed off after all that money !!! could it be because he used a stock valve body ?? __________________ 97 sc 4x4 no plate,no afc,370's,htt64/14 ,6in. stack ,bhaf, 4500gsk, mack plug ,50 pounds ,built tranny and converter,full cut dv's,twisted barrels,22DEG TIMING ,and a 50shot on the way !!!

07-03-2007, 08:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
sooter Cummins Nut Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: new hampster Posts: 408 sooter's Truck Pics	yup. let me guess..there's no shift kit in it? i bet the pressures aren't up to par with the extra power. give an aftermarket company a call...suncoast, goerend, dtt, etc. and put in an aftermarket valve body to up the pressures, get it shifting right, etc. ...or at the very least put a shift kit in it. (a lower stall converter will put more pressure on the clutch packs and will make them slip anymore if the stock pressure hasn't been modified). __________________ 01 3500 HO 4x4 sport that lived up to my name "sooter" - traded 04 2500 CA/235 graphite QC shorty 4x4--53Willy's intake, 4" TBE w/resonator, custom built downpipe, 2nd gen exhaust manifold, and a mild box, 285/70/17 Hankook Dynapro MTs.

07-03-2007, 08:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Diesel Nut Diesel Nut Motorsports Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 3,602 Diesel Nut's Truck Pics	Who built it and what did it cost? You can PM that info. I am just trying to get an idea of what is in the transmission. Do you still have the reciept? It should be itemized with all the parts he billed you for and then the labor should be listed and any hazmat fees. __________________ Diesel Nut Motorsports.com Everything you need for your diesel. Performance, mileage or repairs, we have it! 1-800-450-7036 Our Amsoil webpage Become an Amsoil Preferred Customer Become an Amsoil Dealer 1990 Reg Cab - Project Truck 1991.5 Reg Cab - Parts Runner 2006 Quad Cab

07-05-2007, 06:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
12v1500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tampa Posts: 55 12v1500's Truck Pics	I paid $2500 he put a triple disk converter was $875, a extra clutch plate along with all new plate they where raybestest blue something , all new sensors,solnoids,gaskets that price was him pullin it out and reinstalling it ! the fluid smells and looks good ! i dont now if he messed with the od unit ! __________________ 97 sc 4x4 no plate,no afc,370's,htt64/14 ,6in. stack ,bhaf, 4500gsk, mack plug ,50 pounds ,built tranny and converter,full cut dv's,twisted barrels,22DEG TIMING ,and a 50shot on the way !!!

07-05-2007, 06:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
DieselDood Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: RAMsey MN Posts: 1,023 DieselDood's Truck Pics	Sorry man but you get what you pay for, $875 for a triple disc? I don't think so. Even the cheap aftermarket converters were more than that last time I checked. Sounds to me like your driving through the converter lock up clutch. __________________ Someone Deleted My signature. No asking.... www.MNTDR.org www.TripleDPerformance.com

07-06-2007, 10:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
pro99 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,136 pro99's Truck Pics	Reading his post when it hit's 3rd gear is doesn't drop but 50 rpm's? It doesn't sound like a T/C to me at that time. Not saying he not slipping it when he lock up but 3rd should drop 250 to 300. __________________ Charles Estep

07-06-2007, 02:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
12v1500 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tampa Posts: 55 12v1500's Truck Pics	i pulled about 15000lbs with it today it deff still slips !! the trans temp only got to 165 ! i thought if a trans is slipping it would get hotter ! __________________ 97 sc 4x4 no plate,no afc,370's,htt64/14 ,6in. stack ,bhaf, 4500gsk, mack plug ,50 pounds ,built tranny and converter,full cut dv's,twisted barrels,22DEG TIMING ,and a 50shot on the way !!!

07-06-2007, 04:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Racer9 AlGores worst nightmare Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 1,240 Racer9's Truck Pics	Have you talked to the trans builder? He built it, and should be able to make it work properly. May just need an adjustment, but it sounds like either the TC or O/D slipping. __________________ '96 CTD, 4X4 flatbed, Isspro gauges, Skyjacker D-25's, ThurenFab track bar, lockRite. Motor; BHAF, #100 fuel plate, Shimmed gov springs, Loose starwheel. Exhaust; 16cm housing, 4" downpipe, 5" turnout stacks. Trans; Dunrite VB/TC, Intelligent Engineering billet input shaft, Burt Brown rebuild/upgrade.