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NV4500 General Motors (Part #12346190=SYNTORQ

I was doing some research and found this GM Lube is the same as SYNTORQ for $19.24 a quart from this site
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for use in the NV4500...Is anyone familiar with this subsitute??


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yup, the chrysler (PN 4637579) and gm (PN 12346191) are just rebottled syntorque

Better yet, get some amsoil MTG for half the price


Quad4x4 also sells syntorque in gallon jugs for a somewhat reasonable price

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Even cheaper here, $11/qt Dodge and Chevy New Venture 4500 transmission oil

If their auction is over go straight to the source. They are a legit dealer.

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never quite had good luck with amsoil in trannys..always seemed to develope a leak and then the shifting got wierd..but thanks for the info

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Ran Royal Purple in mine,,,,, for about a month and a half,,,,, parts house said and confirmed that it would cross over with the Syntorq stuff...... $1100 for a rebuild later,, I trust the factory stuff....

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Chitty deal, the royal purple is known to eat up the CF lined syncros in a real hurry.

People have had good luck with the amsoil MTG and other than that the only other oil i would trust is the castrol which was designed specifically for the nv4500

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Ran Royal Purple in mine,,,,, for about a month and a half,,,,, parts house said and confirmed that it would cross over with the Syntorq stuff...... $1100 for a rebuild later,, I trust the factory stuff....
Many people have gotten burned by brands that say they cross over but really don't.
Royal Purple and Redline are two that for sure don't work according to people who've used them.

I figure you don't have to change tranny fluid all that much, why experiment trying to save money when the damage and downtime will be expensive?
I only use Syntorq.

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exactly, for the once every half million mile oil change, no point in cheaping out on the oil and having it cost you 10x as much on repairs!

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good thing i didnt run royal purple like i was going to then, I had a buddy put ATF in his because he wanted to save money, I tried telling him it would take out his syncros and such but he thinks since he only puts a couple thousand miles a year on it, it will last him a while still.


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for the once every half million mile oil change...
Longer than that.
Dodge says if you don't tow the tranny is lubed for life.
I've often wondered if that means for the life of the tranny when it dies from worn out oil.
They say every 100k mile changes when towing.
That works for me, oil still looks new at 100k.
But as they say, looks don't mean anything.

If you buy a truck used and don't know it's history I think it's a very wise idea to change the oil just so you know what's in it.
Damage from the wrong lube often takes up to 20k miles.

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well this is the first time im changing it with 120k on her..just looking at the service interval part in my owners manual it never says anything about changing the manual tranny fluid and it goes up to 108k and thats on the B plan which is the heavy usage plane..but it does tell u to change the transfercase fluid..

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Listen to Bill!

As Illflem, aka Bill, suggested, I too ordered my Castrol Syntorque from Blumenthal Transmissions out of Oklahoma City via their e-bay sales site. It was dropped on my front porch in 4 days! The $53.90 charge for their 5 quarts of re-branded Syntorque, including shipping with no sales tax contribution to your state's Governor, sure beat the $26.00 per quart extortion quoted at the local Dodge 'stealership'!

Knowing that the older gent, from whom I recently bought my truck, had his service lube work done at one of the nationally franchised oil-whiz places staffed largely by High School drop-outs... I wanted to be sure the correct Syntorque gear oil was on-board!

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