Can anyone answer P-7100 Questions

***DieselRacer75*** · 11-04-2009, 06:23 PM

Hey guys I got a complete 96 12v motor with less than 100k on it given to me for FREE.

I have good plans for this motor (sled puller). I took the pump off last night and it's a 885 (180hp) My question is can I put a 215 cam in it? I heard that the 215 cam is better. Also If yall can give me ANY input or tips about the pump please tell me. I'm going to start pulling it apart tomorrow to learn more about it.

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96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

ykdave · 11-04-2009, 06:26 PM

You could put a 215 cam in it but its going to require tools that you definitely wont have in the garage!

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

***DieselRacer75*** · 11-04-2009, 06:28 PM

Dang Dave you answered that fast!!!!! Well if I got it done would it be better than the 180 cam??

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96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

ykdave · 11-04-2009, 06:52 PM

lol, im bored at work... Tried cutting my finger off last week so im pretty much stuck with sitting infront of the computer.

Depending on what you plan on doing, their are some benefits to swapping the cams. Such as better barrel filling at high rpms, due to steeper angles ont he cam lobe which dont keep the plunger at the top as long.

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

***DieselRacer75*** · 11-04-2009, 11:27 PM

Well Dave I'm wanting to build a high flow and high rev pump. I'm also just wanting to learn how to build a p7100. Also is there a book or manual on these pumps? That would really help.

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96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

ykdave · 11-04-2009, 11:30 PM

If you can get your hands on one, Bosch does have books out there.

Problem is finding the tools to be able to do the teardown, then once you get over that hurdle your screwed unless you have the cash to build a test bench to dial that sucker in!

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

kjpcummins · 11-04-2009, 11:35 PM

You have to have some very expensive equipment to pull a cam in a p7100 and should be done by a injection shop. The 180hp and 215hp pump that come on a dodge cummins have the same cam.

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2002 2500 4x4 6 speed
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***DieselRacer75*** · 11-04-2009, 11:47 PM

Ok. Well what can I do to this pump?!?!? I really want to learn how to tune and work this pump. The reason I want to learn is because the guy that did my pump screwed me over. Thanks for the help guys!!!!

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96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

ykdave · 11-04-2009, 11:49 PM

As far as what you can do with basic tools in the driveway, your limited to governor modifications and delivery valve swaps.

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

whoaru99 · 11-04-2009, 11:51 PM

I think the point people are trying to get across is that you need a flow bench to do it. Well, I suppose you don't need one, unless you want it done right.

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98.5 3500 QC 2WD DRW, 5-speed, 3.55 limited slip, EZ + TST PM2 stack, pyro gauge, AD100 (in process of installing)

whoaru99 · 11-04-2009, 11:53 PM

I might have a Bosch training CD that shows theory of operation, adjustments, etc.

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98.5 3500 QC 2WD DRW, 5-speed, 3.55 limited slip, EZ + TST PM2 stack, pyro gauge, AD100 (in process of installing)

12vbigkermit · 11-04-2009, 11:54 PM

pump shop is your best bet!!! find another shop.

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98 2500 4x4 7"38's, 8kh.i.d, pump tweaks, 4gsk, stacks, inline defuser,FASS,gauges,Suncoast billet trans bllt flex plate, tc lck up, timing, k&n, head oringed+ stg3 valve job,60lbs spring,coaltrain 140's soon to be a1's and super b special.

11-04-2009, 06:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
*DieselRacer75* Randall Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sand Springs Oklahoma Posts: 100 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts DieselRacer75's Truck Pics	Can anyone answer P-7100 Questions Hey guys I got a complete 96 12v motor with less than 100k on it given to me for FREE. I have good plans for this motor (sled puller). I took the pump off last night and it's a 885 (180hp) My question is can I put a 215 cam in it? I heard that the 215 cam is better. Also If yall can give me ANY input or tips about the pump please tell me. I'm going to start pulling it apart tomorrow to learn more about it. __________________ 96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

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11-04-2009, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,853 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	You could put a 215 cam in it but its going to require tools that you definitely wont have in the garage! __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-04-2009, 06:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
*DieselRacer75* Randall Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sand Springs Oklahoma Posts: 100 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts DieselRacer75's Truck Pics	Dang Dave you answered that fast!!!!! Well if I got it done would it be better than the 180 cam?? __________________ 96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

11-04-2009, 06:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,853 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	lol, im bored at work... Tried cutting my finger off last week so im pretty much stuck with sitting infront of the computer. Depending on what you plan on doing, their are some benefits to swapping the cams. Such as better barrel filling at high rpms, due to steeper angles ont he cam lobe which dont keep the plunger at the top as long. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-04-2009, 11:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
*DieselRacer75* Randall Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sand Springs Oklahoma Posts: 100 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts DieselRacer75's Truck Pics	Well Dave I'm wanting to build a high flow and high rev pump. I'm also just wanting to learn how to build a p7100. Also is there a book or manual on these pumps? That would really help. __________________ 96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

11-04-2009, 11:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,853 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	If you can get your hands on one, Bosch does have books out there. Problem is finding the tools to be able to do the teardown, then once you get over that hurdle your screwed unless you have the cash to build a test bench to dial that sucker in! __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-04-2009, 11:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
kjpcummins Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: leon, ia Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 2 Thanked 29 Times in 28 Posts kjpcummins's Truck Pics	You have to have some very expensive equipment to pull a cam in a p7100 and should be done by a injection shop. The 180hp and 215hp pump that come on a dodge cummins have the same cam. __________________ 2002 2500 4x4 6 speed Please provide physical proof to back this up.....or refrain from posting it. *Engineered Diesel Turbos/Southern Diesel Extreme Injectors*

11-04-2009, 11:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
*DieselRacer75* Randall Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sand Springs Oklahoma Posts: 100 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts DieselRacer75's Truck Pics	Ok. Well what can I do to this pump?!?!? I really want to learn how to tune and work this pump. The reason I want to learn is because the guy that did my pump screwed me over. Thanks for the help guys!!!! __________________ 96 CUMMINS 4x4, dynamite 150 injectors,(HTT 64/71/13 SS) ATS exhaust manifold, AFE cold air intake Dragon Fly pump 4kgs, full cut DV's, +60 Springs, 100 fuel plate, star wheel cranked, plate and AFC fwd, Suncoast tranny, lock in override switch, triple lock converter, 4" exhaust into a black miter cut 6" BIG THANKS TO UNDERGROUND DIESEL

11-04-2009, 11:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,853 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	As far as what you can do with basic tools in the driveway, your limited to governor modifications and delivery valve swaps. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-04-2009, 11:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
whoaru99 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 162 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts whoaru99's Truck Pics	I think the point people are trying to get across is that you need a flow bench to do it. Well, I suppose you don't need one, unless you want it done right. __________________ 98.5 3500 QC 2WD DRW, 5-speed, 3.55 limited slip, EZ + TST PM2 stack, pyro gauge, AD100 (in process of installing)

11-04-2009, 11:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
whoaru99 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 162 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts whoaru99's Truck Pics	I might have a Bosch training CD that shows theory of operation, adjustments, etc. __________________ 98.5 3500 QC 2WD DRW, 5-speed, 3.55 limited slip, EZ + TST PM2 stack, pyro gauge, AD100 (in process of installing)

11-04-2009, 11:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
12vbigkermit Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 831 Thanks: 7 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts 12vbigkermit's Truck Pics	pump shop is your best bet!!! find another shop. __________________ 98 2500 4x4 7"38's, 8kh.i.d, pump tweaks, 4gsk, stacks, inline defuser,FASS,gauges,Suncoast billet trans bllt flex plate, tc lck up, timing, k&n, head oringed+ stg3 valve job,60lbs spring,coaltrain 140's soon to be a1's and super b special.