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stock 2nd gen inj - vary depending on model but all are 145° injectors 49 state 160 hp - 5x9 .000318 49 state 175 hp 5x9 .000318 180 hp 5x9.5 .000354 160 hp cpl 1863, (actually a 180) 5x9.5 .000354 all calif trucks '96-98 were 180 hp = 5x9.5 .000354 215 hp - 5x10.25 .01025 .000412 300's and 330's same size - 4x12 = .000452 370's - 5x12 = .000565 155° spray pattern 435's - 5x014 = .000769 avail in both 155 and 145° spray pattern ddp stg III (90 hp) = 50 LPM (liter per minute) 155° 5 hole extrude hone inj <5x12 270 bar ddp stg IV (140 hp) = 66 lpm - 5 holes smaller than .0135 270 bar ddp stg 4plus - no longer avail now considered comp waiver must be signed to obtain ddp comp = 73-90 lpm depending on application same for pop all four start out as 155° marine nozzles and are extrude honed the flow numbers (lpm) i posted is what was printed on boxes that i received from ddp there are posts on other forums that vary slightly with these numbers measured the holes myself (.0135 would not go in a stg 4 ect) have not used 50 or 75 hp ddp inj - have no idea what size the holes are custom injectors - 5x.012 = .000565 5x13 = .000663 5x14 = .000769 7x10 = .000549 (24v conv inj are usually 7 hole) 7x12 = .000794 6x13 = .000795 5x15 = .000882 6x14 = .000923 5x16 = .001005 6x15 = .001059 7x14 = .001077 5x17 = .001134 6x16 = .001206 5x18 = .001272 6x17 = .001360 5x19 = .001416 6x18 = .001526 5x20 = .001570 ind inj super dragon flows (10 hole) - 5x10.25 + 5x18 .001684 6x20 = .001884 5x22 = .001900 5x24 = .002261 6x22 = .002280 5x25 = .002459 (this is what some refer to as a true competition injector) *i figured out the csa (cross sectional area) for ea injector. those numbers are in bold if you want to figure 24v stuff or something that is not on the chart use rē x pi x # of holes take the hole size divided by 2 times pi (3.14259) times the number of holes Last edited by DTanklage : 10-07-2009 at 07:20 PM. |
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wow this is a great thread, the pensacola's(stage 2) i had were 6 hole, i have no idea what they were, i always assumed they were marine 300's but now i really dont know seeing that 300's are 4 hole... anyone with any ideas?
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thanks, i added the csa for some more of the popular custom sizes guess its not worthy of a sticky no one needs to know what size their injectors are or how they compare to other injectors? thanks again |
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pensacola's(stage 2) are 4 hole...i dont know what you had they are made in china the entire injector |
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I had Pensacola Stg. 2's in one of my trucks. They may only retail for $214, but you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! They are awful injectors and I will never run another set. I wouldn't have bought them, but they were in the truck when I bought it. BTW DTanklage, this is a fantastic thread with great info. I've been wondering about my 435's for ages. This is very useful info and very easy to read, great job.
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your welcome plz pm a mod and request it be made a sticky its info that i as a newbie was very curious about and a lot of research and time went into making this chart we still need a piston chart with years and p/n's and the different bowl dimensions the two go hand in hand ya know... |
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Nice write up Don!
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Diesel Head
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don would you be able to figure out the csa for a 7x10 and 7x14 also thanks kyle
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7x10 - .000549 7x14 - .001077 to figure csa of an injector i take the hole size divided by 2 times pi (3.14259) times the number of holes a 7x10 has seven .010" holes a 7x14 is bout twice as big ( ! ) thats why you have to look at csa off topic but you should see what happens when you start increasing the size of a nitrous jet |
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thanks i was just curious as im going to be running a 7x12 once the nozzles get sorted out and was curious how much bigger a 7x14 was cause i know they can easily fuel a 3.0 turbo with a ppump 24v and a 7x14 would be the next step if i ever got a larger turbo. You can do so much with a 7x10 injector i cant imagine the fueling you can do with a 7x14
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