new turbo is on but I need to bring down egts

patrick.durbahn · 07-01-2009, 09:32 PM

Hi
I just finished putting my new turbo. It is a borg warner s300g. I am running 204 dvs, bosch 370s, 3k gov springs, k&n intake, and a custom fuel plate. I like the power that I am getting, except the slow spooling, but my egts are getting hot when I get on it. They start climbing up to 16000 than I let off. I was wondering what I can do to keep down my temps a little bit. I was thinking about a intake manifold, ow much will this help? I plan on swapping out the 370s for some ddp 140s but that wont be for a while, will that help alot? thanks Patrick

patrick.durbahn · 07-01-2009, 09:34 PM

I also have 4" straight pipes

**jkidd** · 07-01-2009, 10:07 PM

your turbo is a bit on the small side to run WOT and stay cool. Water meth will help. going to bigger Injectors will get you hotter the 370HP are about 90HP over stock if I recall correctly. If you got marine 370 they are the wrong spray pattern and will run hotter and less efficient when compared to a 370 edm'd for dodge pistons.

a 3pc exhaust manifold will bring temps down about 50 degrees. you may also have too aggressive fueling curve on the fuel plate. has your timing been adjusted?

btw you have 1 too many zero's in your EGT #

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CumminsDriver · 07-02-2009, 12:29 AM

I would bump the timing to about 16* if you havent advanced it already.

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ykdave · 07-02-2009, 12:44 AM

whats the specs on that s300?

Sounds like its time for something bigger....

Bump the timing up, that will help. Porting + a manifold will also help. air in and air out = happy EGTs. Any for of an air intake system will help over the stock airbox/filter (flows a measily 140cfm)

Which pump are you running?

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**jkidd** · 07-02-2009, 01:19 AM

s300g is usually 57/65/14.

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NM12VALVE · 07-02-2009, 11:01 AM

Here is a bump for ya cause i actually have a very similar issue, but i adjusted my wastegate and it seemed better for a few days but not now so

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hoodstack96 · 07-02-2009, 11:34 AM

Those 204 dvs seem a little large, you could go with a set of 181's or 191's. That may help some too. Ive seen some people make some big power with 181's even

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patrick.durbahn · 07-02-2009, 08:12 PM

ok thanks everyone. I am going to try to adjust the timing. Anyone know of any good writeups to help guide me through this as I have never doe tis before. thanks. ansd I already have the air intake. I was talking about the intake manifold. will this help cool it a little? thanks

MasterMoparMan · 07-02-2009, 09:15 PM

CumminsDatabase.com :: P7100 Injection Pump Timing

you will need a special tool to do it

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ykdave · 07-02-2009, 09:43 PM

You can do it with basic hand tools but your timing isnt going to be very accurate...

Your best off trying to get you hands on a dial indicator, if not the proper one, you can make a holder for any 'long' dial indicator using an oil pan plug. search around for info on that

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Stump Jumper · 07-02-2009, 10:53 PM

I used an magnetinc base for the dial when I did mine.

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jkidd Diesel Auto Power Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverside California Posts: 1,653 Thanks: 15 Thanked 35 Times in 30 Posts jkidd's Truck Pics	your turbo is a bit on the small side to run WOT and stay cool. Water meth will help. going to bigger Injectors will get you hotter the 370HP are about 90HP over stock if I recall correctly. If you got marine 370 they are the wrong spray pattern and will run hotter and less efficient when compared to a 370 edm'd for dodge pistons. a 3pc exhaust manifold will bring temps down about 50 degrees. you may also have too aggressive fueling curve on the fuel plate. has your timing been adjusted? btw you have 1 too many zero's in your EGT # __________________ www.DieselAutoPower.com Call Jacob at 951-377-4844 for best pricing SUPER DEALS on Injection pumps, Turbos, Injectors & Programmers SUMMER SPECIAL--8% off after REBATE(up to $200 off per transaction.) When you buy from me on Ebay and pay with paypal you will receive an 8% rebate from Ebay in 60 days. Call me for rebate coupon code or questions. Example: Buy VP44 for $1000- 8% Rebate of $80= $920 after rebate

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CumminsDriver Diesel Freak Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lancaster, Ky Posts: 517 Thanks: 2 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts CumminsDriver's Truck Pics	I would bump the timing to about 16* if you havent advanced it already. Eric __________________ Silver 94 Dodge 2500 4x4 3:55 limited slip. Goerend TC/VB. #0, 4k, 191DV's, 215 injectors, 60/58/9 turbo, 4 inch exhaust

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ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,773 Thanks: 0 Thanked 66 Times in 55 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	whats the specs on that s300? Sounds like its time for something bigger.... Bump the timing up, that will help. Porting + a manifold will also help. air in and air out = happy EGTs. Any for of an air intake system will help over the stock airbox/filter (flows a measily 140cfm) Which pump are you running? __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd / 5spd / nv4500 / 4x4 / np241 Home made intake and BHAF, AFC tweaked, custom plate, autometer pyro and boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, tons more to come

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jkidd Diesel Auto Power Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverside California Posts: 1,653 Thanks: 15 Thanked 35 Times in 30 Posts jkidd's Truck Pics	s300g is usually 57/65/14. __________________ www.DieselAutoPower.com Call Jacob at 951-377-4844 for best pricing SUPER DEALS on Injection pumps, Turbos, Injectors & Programmers SUMMER SPECIAL--8% off after REBATE(up to $200 off per transaction.) When you buy from me on Ebay and pay with paypal you will receive an 8% rebate from Ebay in 60 days. Call me for rebate coupon code or questions. Example: Buy VP44 for $1000- 8% Rebate of $80= $920 after rebate

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NM12VALVE Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALBUQUERQUE Posts: 271 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts NM12VALVE's Truck Pics	Here is a bump for ya cause i actually have a very similar issue, but i adjusted my wastegate and it seemed better for a few days but not now so __________________ 98 RAM2500 AUTO 4X4 12 VALVE!!!!!BHAF, FUEL PLATE AND AFC FORWARD, HOME GROUND 100, s300/s400 TWINS, A-METER BOOST PYRO AND TRANS, 5" INTO 6" MITRE CUT STACK, SILENCE RING GONE ATS CONVERTER AND BUILT TRANS KDP tabbed-timing 16 deg-3GSK, stage 2 injectors

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hoodstack96 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 245 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts hoodstack96's Truck Pics	Those 204 dvs seem a little large, you could go with a set of 181's or 191's. That may help some too. Ive seen some people make some big power with 181's even __________________ 1996 2500 4x4, HX35+HT60,#10 Full Forward, 3000 GSK, 18*, DDP 191's,5x.012's, Modified AFC,5" Hood Stack, Home Made Traction Bars,Autometer Ultra Lite II Gauges,Auto to Manual,Valair 12 1/4" 3800# Ceramic, 3.54:1 Gears.

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patrick.durbahn Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts patrick.durbahn's Truck Pics	ok thanks everyone. I am going to try to adjust the timing. Anyone know of any good writeups to help guide me through this as I have never doe tis before. thanks. ansd I already have the air intake. I was talking about the intake manifold. will this help cool it a little? thanks

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ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,773 Thanks: 0 Thanked 66 Times in 55 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	You can do it with basic hand tools but your timing isnt going to be very accurate... Your best off trying to get you hands on a dial indicator, if not the proper one, you can make a holder for any 'long' dial indicator using an oil pan plug. search around for info on that __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd / 5spd / nv4500 / 4x4 / np241 Home made intake and BHAF, AFC tweaked, custom plate, autometer pyro and boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, tons more to come

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