Running No Plate - Page 2

JakeDiesel · 03-06-2009, 10:45 AM

very nice post

, thou the ? will still be asked

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duanedavis · 03-09-2009, 10:24 PM

so doesit fuel harder with out the plate in, or pour more coal.

ykdave · 03-09-2009, 10:27 PM

With no plate it obviously pours in as much fuel as the pump is capable of with its current configuration of DVs/plungers/barrels/cam. 'pouring coal' is just partially burnt fuel coming out the exhaust that is easily achieved with a plate still installed.

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

Don Wagner · 03-10-2009, 12:38 AM

The plate only controls rack travel ie: the amount of fuel allowed during full load, it does not control low end fueling. The following cutaway diagram is useful to see how all of the components come together. The black arrow is the rack adjustment, the red arrow is the governor arm adjustment, and the green arrow is the AFC pre-load adjustment.

rush479 · 03-11-2009, 12:33 AM

I dont want to sound stupid..(Im fairly new to the diesel performance stuff,) but what does removing the fuel plate do to the engines performance and what do you mean by grinding it?

rush479 · 03-11-2009, 12:36 AM

Thanks for the info....

xzaq103 · 03-11-2009, 02:46 AM

Thanks Don!

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1998 2500 12 valve QC Goerend trans, 4x4, gauges, Benched 500+cc 180 pump NO plate, 5" single stack, ICE BOX intake, 4K GSK, 60lb valve springs, 24* timing, AirDog 150, Southern Diesel eXtreme 5X18s, 3rd Gen wheels E.D. 64/68 turbo, ARP studs. 13.4/99mph

Don Wagner · 03-12-2009, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rush479

I dont want to sound stupid..(Im fairly new to the diesel performance stuff,) but what does removing the fuel plate do to the engines performance and what do you mean by grinding it?

Removing material from the face of the fuel plate adds allowable rack travel, extended rack travel allows greater lift to port closure increasing flow from the injection pump.

chasespeed · 03-12-2009, 04:31 PM

Hey man, how about another one of these, THIS time, explaining timing, its effects with different pumps, (160/170/215, etc), cylinder pressures etc.... seems to be more info that needs to be shared properly.

Chase

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ykdave · 03-12-2009, 04:54 PM

Heres a nice little chart from dodgeram.org, definately doesnt explain everything but give a general idea of what goes on and what to expect.

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97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD
Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

Racer9 · 03-12-2009, 05:36 PM

I'm locking this thread, simply to keep it from getting too long for anyone to read through. For specific questions PM Don Wagner, otherwise start a new thread.
Thanks guys, and especially Don Wagner, for the info.

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'96 2500, CTD, 4X4 flatbed, Isspro gauges, Skyjacker D-25's, ThurenFab track bar.

Motor; BHAF, #100 fuel plate, Shimmed gov springs, Loose starwheel. 306hp/743tq

Exhaust; Schwitzer S300G, 4" downpipe, 5" turnout stacks.

Trans; Dunrite VB/TC, Intelligent Engineering billet input shaft, Burt Brown rebuild/upgrade.

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03-09-2009, 10:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
duanedavis Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts duanedavis's Truck Pics	so doesit fuel harder with out the plate in, or pour more coal.

03-09-2009, 10:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,851 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	With no plate it obviously pours in as much fuel as the pump is capable of with its current configuration of DVs/plungers/barrels/cam. 'pouring coal' is just partially burnt fuel coming out the exhaust that is easily achieved with a plate still installed. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

03-10-2009, 12:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Don Wagner Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Not Quite Canadia Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Don Wagner's Truck Pics	The plate only controls rack travel ie: the amount of fuel allowed during full load, it does not control low end fueling. The following cutaway diagram is useful to see how all of the components come together. The black arrow is the rack adjustment, the red arrow is the governor arm adjustment, and the green arrow is the AFC pre-load adjustment.

03-11-2009, 12:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
rush479 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lamesa, Tx. Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts rush479's Truck Pics	I dont want to sound stupid..(Im fairly new to the diesel performance stuff,) but what does removing the fuel plate do to the engines performance and what do you mean by grinding it?

03-11-2009, 12:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
rush479 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lamesa, Tx. Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts rush479's Truck Pics	Thanks for the info....

03-11-2009, 02:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
xzaq103 Cummins Nut Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville AR Posts: 481 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts xzaq103's Truck Pics	Thanks Don! __________________ 1998 2500 12 valve QC Goerend trans, 4x4, gauges, Benched 500+cc 180 pump NO plate, 5" single stack, ICE BOX intake, 4K GSK, 60lb valve springs, 24* timing, AirDog 150, Southern Diesel eXtreme 5X18s, 3rd Gen wheels E.D. 64/68 turbo, ARP studs. 13.4/99mph

03-12-2009, 04:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
chasespeed Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wmass Posts: 252 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts chasespeed's Truck Pics	Hey man, how about another one of these, THIS time, explaining timing, its effects with different pumps, (160/170/215, etc), cylinder pressures etc.... seems to be more info that needs to be shared properly. Chase __________________ 01 12v/4500/4wd with some stuff....

03-12-2009, 04:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,851 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	Heres a nice little chart from dodgeram.org, definately doesnt explain everything but give a general idea of what goes on and what to expect. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

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Racer9 AlGores worst nightmare Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 1,925 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Racer9's Truck Pics	I'm locking this thread, simply to keep it from getting too long for anyone to read through. For specific questions PM Don Wagner, otherwise start a new thread. Thanks guys, and especially Don Wagner, for the info. __________________ '96 2500, CTD, 4X4 flatbed, Isspro gauges, Skyjacker D-25's, ThurenFab track bar. Motor; BHAF, #100 fuel plate, Shimmed gov springs, Loose starwheel. 306hp/743tq Exhaust; Schwitzer S300G, 4" downpipe, 5" turnout stacks. Trans; Dunrite VB/TC, Intelligent Engineering billet input shaft, Burt Brown rebuild/upgrade.