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Old 03-08-2012, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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good or bad buy and rust panels?

hey everyone i just bought my first 12 valve last night!
pros
4x4 works good
auto
std cab
5 inch strait pipe
clean interior

cons
rusty body frames in really good shape
199k miles
RED INTERIOR (gonna hit the junkyard and look for a grey one like my old gasser dually)
needs paint and rockers and bedside wheel wells repaired
needs a valve cover gasket
no towing mirrors yet

good or bad pickup? i like it so far the mile i test drove it. i really have wanted a diesel for awhile and ill probably be keeping this truck for years to come. im just wondering who knows good rust repair panel that are quality products.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What year is it? Built trans? How rusty is it? How much did you have to spend if I may ask?
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crap forgot to put that. its a 1994. frames really good for the year. i payed 4000$. stock trans as far as i know. needs rockers doors arent really bad and the front fender right by the rocker. the bedsides need work on the back there about gone back there above the wheel.
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Doesn't sound like a terrible deal. Just make sure you tab the KDP asap. Up by me they are very hard to find in any condition. There was a 94 12v on craigslist by me with a plow with 168k miles on it and the guy wanted $3500 and it didn't last long.
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i love it. i cant wait to go work on it today. i come from ford blood but im giving cummins a shot. heard great things and they sound great and can give you the power and i like the mechanical over electric thought. i sold my f150 and got a cummins for pretty much 100 dollars out of pocket
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sorry this will sound dumb but whats tabbing the KDP?
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KDP= Killer Dowel Pin. It's a alignment Dowel Pin to align the timing case to the front of the block. It can vibrate itself loose and become costly quick. The only way to tell if it has been tabbed is to pull the timing cover off.
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wow ill have to look. im gonna do a valve cover gasket and front end work a little bit today
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sounds like a pretty good deal for the price. Too bad its an auto but I guess thats not the end of the world. I would definately uprade tc and valve body before messing with turning the fuel up. Do you not like the red interior? I think it looks better than grey, but thats just my opinion. I dont know how mechanically inclined you are but you can do the KDP fix in an afternoon with a $65 kit. Althought alot will say just make a tab and buy the crank seal and timing cover gasket. Good luck with your new truck. This is from TST website:

Dowel Pin Awareness


If you have heard of “dowel pin issues” on the 12 valve Cummins 5.9 with the P7100 Bosch injection pump then you may already have taken care of your truck. This dowel pin issue applies to all ’89-’98 12 valve Rams with Cummins engines and many other non-Dodge Cummins 12 valve engines. If you have not heard of the issue, or you heard yet have done nothing and you are the owner of one of these vehicles, listen up. A dowel pin failure could destroy your engine completely or do no damage at all.


The aluminum front gear housing on the 5.9 Cummins is precisely located on the front of the cast iron engine block using dowel pins. The dowel pin is about 5/16 inch diameter by 3/4inch length made of steel. During engine assembly the dowel pins are driven into holes drilled in the block such that about half their length protrudes. Matching holes in the gear housing permit a precise fit of the housing the block. Several cap screws are used to hold the housing to the block. The problem with the dowel pin occurs because the hole in the aluminum gear housing was drilled through. During engine operation vibration could cause the dowel pin to work its way out of the hole and fall into the gear case. When the dowel pin falls, it can drop right to the oil pan or land in the gear housing, causing no damage at all.


On the other hand, the pin can be caught in the camshaft gear and forced into the aluminum gear housing, breaking out a big chunk of the housing which would cause a huge oil leak and an expensive, time consuming failure.


Worst-case failure is when the dowel pin goes between the cam and crank gears, or cam and injection pump gears, breaking the gear off the camshaft. The camshaft stops rotating instantly causing valves to stop operating, leaving some valves open and some closed. The crankshaft continues to rotate for a few seconds, slamming pistons into valves, and possibly ruining block, crank, rods, cylinder head, and valve train. Almost no reusable parts in this case, a complete engine swap could be required.


If you are the owner of one of these 12 valve 5.9 engines and you haven’t taken preventive action, we suggest you take action before the vehicle strands you in a bad location and sticks you with an expensive repair bill. TST offers a “Dowel Pin Kit” that includes the parts you need to access the dowel pin, positively lock it in place so that it does not come out. Installing this kit requires removal of the engine fan shroud, fan, damper, and front gear cover to gain access to the dowel pin. Once the dowel pin is secured, a new crankshaft seal included in the kit is installed in the gear cover and all parts are reinstalled. This kit sells for $65 and takes about 4 hours to install. See DowelPina.pdffor complete installation instructions


Kit includes the parts needed to fix the famous dowel pin problem on the 1989-1998 Dodge diesels. The TST Dowel Pin Kit contains-

Cummins Crank Shaft Seal

Egg Shaped Washer

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thanks man. i just bought 2 doors with glass and front fenders with towing mirrors for 200$. yes 200$. good deal? both rust free.
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that seems pretty cheap, what tow mirrors? flip out, bolt on chrome ones or aftermarket extending?
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Just the towing mirrors that are manual will cost a minimum of $140 ($180 for power or more) without the backing plates. The plates cost another $30 or so. It sounds like you bought mirrors and got some free doors and fenders with them.
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