1st gen 12v vs. 94 12v

chrisgrant91 · 11-05-2009, 09:37 PM

whats the pros and cons of each. what will make more power easier. witch is more reliable?

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w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

ykdave · 11-05-2009, 09:42 PM

Both are pretty dayum reliable...

The 94 will make more easy power than the 1st gen engine.

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chrisgrant91 · 11-05-2009, 09:50 PM

yeah. what about trannys behind them. when i said 94 i ment 2nd gen

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1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged
w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

ykdave · 11-05-2009, 09:53 PM

auto or manual?

Again, either way, they are pretty comparable for 1/2gen. Enough to barely handle the stock engine, you can count on some upgrades to handle added power

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Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

chrisgrant91 · 11-05-2009, 10:05 PM

well. my buddy is looking at one or the other. we are just trying to figure out the best deal. 1st gen cheaper. but is a 2nd worth the extra. keep in mind we are not looking at junk. it will be a nice one or the other

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1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged
w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

ykdave · 11-05-2009, 10:06 PM

depends on the price of them, but i would jump on the 2nd gen if at all possible. Though the 1st gen is not a 'bad' choice

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Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

chrisgrant91 · 11-05-2009, 10:09 PM

heres a comparison. same miles same body shape 4x4 man. how much higher would you go on the 2nd gen vs. 1st.

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1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged
w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

Busted Knuckles · 11-05-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisgrant91

heres a comparison. same miles same body shape 4x4 man. how much higher would you go on the 2nd gen vs. 1st.

Im not sure that the 2nd gen is worth any more than the 1st gen, honestly the 1st gen is probably worth more being in good shape they are hard to come by and are more desireable around here

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ykdave · 11-05-2009, 10:26 PM

^

Exactly, i wouldnt pay alot more just to get a 2nd gen. But the engine and creature comforts are definitely worth a few extra dollars to me.

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Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

12vbigkermit · 11-06-2009, 12:18 PM

i would go with a 2nd gen although i would love a clean 4x4 1st gen with a p-pump. how much money is the difference between the 2?

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TJT-Rav · 11-06-2009, 12:25 PM

VE pump vs. P7100, the choice is obvious if you want power. The 1st gen wins the cool factor though, they are getting so hard to find in good shape lately.

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'01 3500 Dually 6 spd, AFE stage 2 intake, AFE 4" exhaust brake back, 50hp injectors, 65hp Bulldog + boost elbow, HD clutch, AD 150 in the box in the spare bedroom..ugh, Amsoil dual bypass, NOT a 53 block, big and shiny.

pepperman · 11-06-2009, 03:10 PM

My oldest boy has a sweet CC 1st gen 4x4 standard that he'd trade in a heartbeat for an extended cab 4x4 standard 2nd gen. He just wants a 2nd gen for the comforts and the P-Pump. He doesn't have it up for sale, he's just mentioned it. I have an older post with pics of his truck. Our IT department made it to where I can't view img's or get to a lot of sites so I'll have to e-mail them to you. I'd go with the 2nd gen if the price is right. Just my .02

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chrisgrant91 Cummins Nut Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 316 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts chrisgrant91's Truck Pics	1st gen 12v vs. 94 12v whats the pros and cons of each. what will make more power easier. witch is more reliable? __________________ 1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

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11-05-2009, 09:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,852 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	Both are pretty dayum reliable... The 94 will make more easy power than the 1st gen engine. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-05-2009, 09:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
chrisgrant91 Cummins Nut Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 316 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts chrisgrant91's Truck Pics	yeah. what about trannys behind them. when i said 94 i ment 2nd gen __________________ 1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

11-05-2009, 09:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,852 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	auto or manual? Again, either way, they are pretty comparable for 1/2gen. Enough to barely handle the stock engine, you can count on some upgrades to handle added power __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-05-2009, 10:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
chrisgrant91 Cummins Nut Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 316 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts chrisgrant91's Truck Pics	well. my buddy is looking at one or the other. we are just trying to figure out the best deal. 1st gen cheaper. but is a 2nd worth the extra. keep in mind we are not looking at junk. it will be a nice one or the other __________________ 1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

11-05-2009, 10:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,852 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	depends on the price of them, but i would jump on the 2nd gen if at all possible. Though the 1st gen is not a 'bad' choice __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

11-05-2009, 10:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
chrisgrant91 Cummins Nut Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 316 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts chrisgrant91's Truck Pics	heres a comparison. same miles same body shape 4x4 man. how much higher would you go on the 2nd gen vs. 1st. __________________ 1998.5 24v 4x4 automatic (shift kit) De-Badged w/5 inch turbo back, Bully Dog 65Hp& Monitor and BHAF with heat shield. Holly Fuel Pump. silencer ring?

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ykdave Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Canada Posts: 3,852 Thanks: 0 Thanked 76 Times in 62 Posts ykdave's Truck Pics	^ Exactly, i wouldnt pay alot more just to get a 2nd gen. But the engine and creature comforts are definitely worth a few extra dollars to me. __________________ 97 Ram 2500 / 5.9ctd /NV4500/241DHD Custom Intake Tube+ BHAF, Pump Tuning, Autometer Pyro and Boost gauges, Dual 4" stacks, 33x12.5 Mud terrains, posi-lok, One Hella sound system, tons more to come

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12vbigkermit Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 831 Thanks: 7 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts 12vbigkermit's Truck Pics	i would go with a 2nd gen although i would love a clean 4x4 1st gen with a p-pump. how much money is the difference between the 2? __________________ 98 2500 4x4 7"38's, 8kh.i.d, pump tweaks, 4gsk, stacks, inline defuser,FASS,gauges,Suncoast billet trans bllt flex plate, tc lck up, timing, k&n, head oringed+ stg3 valve job,60lbs spring,coaltrain 140's soon to be a1's and super b special.

11-06-2009, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
TJT-Rav Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 236 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts TJT-Rav's Truck Pics	VE pump vs. P7100, the choice is obvious if you want power. The 1st gen wins the cool factor though, they are getting so hard to find in good shape lately. __________________ '01 3500 Dually 6 spd, AFE stage 2 intake, AFE 4" exhaust brake back, 50hp injectors, 65hp Bulldog + boost elbow, HD clutch, AD 150 in the box in the spare bedroom..ugh, Amsoil dual bypass, NOT a 53 block, big and shiny.

11-06-2009, 03:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
pepperman Cummins Fan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts pepperman's Truck Pics	My oldest boy has a sweet CC 1st gen 4x4 standard that he'd trade in a heartbeat for an extended cab 4x4 standard 2nd gen. He just wants a 2nd gen for the comforts and the P-Pump. He doesn't have it up for sale, he's just mentioned it. I have an older post with pics of his truck. Our IT department made it to where I can't view img's or get to a lot of sites so I'll have to e-mail them to you. I'd go with the 2nd gen if the price is right. Just my .02 __________________ 98' 12v,5sp,3.54's,RC,2wd,BHAF,Valair Ceramic,No Plate or AFC,Straight Pipe,Pyro,Boost, The Addiction has Begun,,,, Take your kid hunting and you won't be hunting for your kid.