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Old 11-02-2009, 09:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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97 manual locking hub conversion.

i am looking into putting a set of locking hubs on my 97 cummins 2500. but i dono how to find out what size my axel is. also i dono where the chapest kit is. anything would help.
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Home made POSI LOCK write up
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am putting Ford knuckles on ours, with the Ford outers and brakes. Not sure what issues I will run into for steering, but I will be sure to post up with a write up on the conversion junk yard style...
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Home made POSI LOCK write up
I think he means something like this: ems offroad 4x4 fabrication custom lift axle swap all offroad products lift kit
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I am putting Ford knuckles on ours, with the Ford outers and brakes. Not sure what issues I will run into for steering, but I will be sure to post up with a write up on the conversion junk yard style...
I did mine with junk yard parts, but left the Dodge knuckles, because of the steering issues, mainly the different taper size(larger) of the Ford knuckles. I modified the Ford spindles on a CNC mill. I had to slot 1 of the holes in the spindle and milled 3 new holes using the Dodge knuckle hole pattern. I had to use a carbide end mill due to the surface hardness of the spindle.

I used the Ford hubs with the wheel mounting diameter turned down to fit stock Dodge wheels, didn't really need to do this as I have aftermarket wheels that would have fit the Ford hubs without modification. Used rotors for a '78 F250 with Dana 60.

There was some discussion on another board about which stub shafts to use Chevy or Ford, in my application '98 2500 the Chevy stubs were too long and the Ford stubs fit perfect.

Everything bolted up pretty easy and I can go back to stock if I want/need to since I didn't modify the stock knuckles. The swap added 3/4" to each side of my width 1.5" overall, can't really tell any difference.

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that sounds exactly what im looking to do. i got a miller at the school and could use it to mill them. did you do a fourm for this?
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that sounds exactly what im looking to do. i got a miller at the school and could use it to mill them. did you do a fourm for this?
Are you wanting to know if I did a writeup of this? Nope but it's pretty straight forward if you've ever done front axle work on your Dodge and know how the Ford goes together.

I can help you through it if you want. In my opinion locating the parts you're going to need is the hardest part, since they're pretty sought after by the hard core 4x4 guys.

The parts i used were off of a '96 Ford F350 4x4. You'll need the spindles, hubs, outer 'stub' axle shafts, spindle lock nuts/washers, inner/outer bearings, hubs seals, rotors I mentioned in earlier post. I think I spent about $4-500 on the parts.

You'll need either a CNC mill or a 13mm carbide endmill for modifing the spindles, I used a CNC a 5/16" carbide end mill and circular interpolated the 13mm holes, you'll need a 12" swing lathe if you're going to do the hub mod. I can post a drawing of the spindle hole layout if you need it and the dimension of the hub diameter.

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i havent done any axel work on my dodge but i got a friend thats a offroader so he should know. i gotta see what the schools miller has but i think it might. if it dose i might need a drawing. ill check the school tomorrow and get back to you. thank you.
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What is the 4th digit of your truck's VIN? If it is a 'K' it is the same axle (8800#) as mine. If it is a 'J' then you have the lighter duty axle that uses the 3 bolt hub bearing (7500#) and the swap that I used won't work.

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i checked it out and its the K so dose that mean its a dana 60? if so what would the rear axel be?
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i just talked to my wrecker friend and he has all the parts from a 98 f350 dana 60. all the parts you listed. so i just have to figure out the milling tool.
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if i do not have that end mill at the school are these the ones i will need? OSG 4.4MM X 13MM CARBIDE END MILLS(5) - NEW on eBay.ca (item 200401768608 end time 10-Nov-09 14:54:14 EST)
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