2002 Not starting

Black Oak Smoker · 10-04-2008, 04:09 PM

I just got a 2002 2500 with an automatic. Starts sometimes and runs great. Other times it takes forever to start and runs bad for a few minutes. The lift pump has been replaced with a holley blue frame mounted. You can hear it running when the key is on. Fuel filter changed. Any ideas? Is there a on off solenoid on this model? Thanks

JWH_03_Dodge · 10-05-2008, 07:25 AM

any codes? Here's a bump to catch the eye of the 2nd gen guys that knows what the deal on the VP44 is.

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Caleb S · 10-05-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JWH_03_Dodge

any codes? Here's a bump to catch the eye of the 2nd gen guys that knows what the deal on the VP44 is.

Yeah do the key trick and tell us what codes show up. That will help in diagnosing the truck.

Also sounds like you need to make sure you are getting fuel to the VP44. So you can crack the #1 injector line or the VP banjo bolt and then bump the starter to send fuel towards it and make sure you get as steady stream. That will help to make sure you are getting fuel where needed and narrow down possible problems.

If you are getting good fuel from the lift pump to VP then it could possibly be an injector or maybe VP issue. Just my thoughts, but once again check for codes and let us know what you get

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Black Oak Smoker · 10-05-2008, 09:34 AM

the code that appears is P PCU.

cameronc · 10-05-2008, 09:40 AM

should say a code after that if ther is one

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Black Oak Smoker · 10-05-2008, 09:41 AM

followed by no codes. So back to square one. If the injector pump was bad would it continue to run most of the time? This is a starting issue. Once started it never stops and runs fine. Although on starts that take awhile it will act up for a couple of minutes.

Justinlhc · 10-05-2008, 10:31 AM

Sounds alot like my issue, but once it starts and acts up it never clears up unless restarted. I'd love to know what fixes it for you. BTW, mine has a new injection pump and it still does this.

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New VP44 and inline lift pump.

5.9 guy · 10-05-2008, 01:41 PM

I would put a fuel pressure guage in to see what it is runnin 15psi at idle no more than 20psi and 5psi min at wot preferable 10psi min at wot

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02 2500 extended cab edge comp/drag box, K&N intake, 4 in MBRP exhaust, built trans, billet converter,HTS valvebody, autometer guages (trans temp, boost, egt, fuel press) bd frame mount lift pump, silencer ring moved out , lock-up switch

Justinlhc · 10-05-2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5.9 guy

I would put a fuel pressure guage in to see what it is runnin 15psi at idle no more than 20psi and 5psi min at wot preferable 10psi min at wot

It shouldn't need 15psi to idle, should it? Mine was idling at 8psi.....well sometimes.

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New VP44 and inline lift pump.

Black Oak Smoker · 10-12-2008, 11:41 PM

update on problem. Seems to be starting better now, however usually on a cold start after warming up I will take off and the turbo doesn't kick in. After about a mile it will start running fine and continue to run fine. Any thoughts on what that it could be now? It was doing similar before, now the only difference is that it seems to be starting better.

***tdcummins*** · 10-13-2008, 03:55 AM

Gey your money back!

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**Diesel Dummy** · 10-13-2008, 04:21 AM

Check to make sure all you connections on the fuel ines are tight and not sucking air, I put a good used vp on and it did the same thing, so i went to a new one, same thing, after 3 months in the garage and a lot of frustration i found a broken clamp that was sucking just enough air so it would not start. Make sure wheen you do the key trick you let it finish, there will be ecu done and pcu done and then back to the odometer.
DD

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10-05-2008, 07:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
JWH_03_Dodge TECH SPECIALIST Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Star City, IN Posts: 695 JWH_03_Dodge's Truck Pics	any codes? Here's a bump to catch the eye of the 2nd gen guys that knows what the deal on the VP44 is. __________________ '03 2500, 4x4, 5sp, QCLB, 90hp injectors, Glacier Fuel System, Quad Race Box, 5" exhaust, still looking for my silencer ring and muffler

10-05-2008, 09:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Black Oak Smoker Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Black Oak Smoker's Truck Pics	the code that appears is P PCU.

10-05-2008, 09:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
cameronc Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 611 cameronc's Truck Pics	should say a code after that if ther is one __________________ 2001,48re w/ Suncoast Valve Body, 4'' exhaust, airaid intake amsoil filter, Quad Xzillaraider & Edge EZ, Bd Stealth plate, Vulcan Big Line Kit& Blue, gauges:SOLD Looking for a 2wd 12v now

10-05-2008, 09:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Black Oak Smoker Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Black Oak Smoker's Truck Pics	followed by no codes. So back to square one. If the injector pump was bad would it continue to run most of the time? This is a starting issue. Once started it never stops and runs fine. Although on starts that take awhile it will act up for a couple of minutes.

10-05-2008, 10:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Justinlhc Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 57 Justinlhc's Truck Pics	Sounds alot like my issue, but once it starts and acts up it never clears up unless restarted. I'd love to know what fixes it for you. BTW, mine has a new injection pump and it still does this. __________________ 1999 2500 24V 5.9 138k miles New VP44 and inline lift pump.

10-05-2008, 01:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
5.9 guy Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Era MI Posts: 221 5.9 guy's Truck Pics	I would put a fuel pressure guage in to see what it is runnin 15psi at idle no more than 20psi and 5psi min at wot preferable 10psi min at wot __________________ 02 2500 extended cab edge comp/drag box, K&N intake, 4 in MBRP exhaust, built trans, billet converter,HTS valvebody, autometer guages (trans temp, boost, egt, fuel press) bd frame mount lift pump, silencer ring moved out , lock-up switch

10-12-2008, 11:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
Black Oak Smoker Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Black Oak Smoker's Truck Pics	update on problem. Seems to be starting better now, however usually on a cold start after warming up I will take off and the turbo doesn't kick in. After about a mile it will start running fine and continue to run fine. Any thoughts on what that it could be now? It was doing similar before, now the only difference is that it seems to be starting better.

10-13-2008, 03:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
*tdcummins* Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 139 tdcummins's Truck Pics	Gey your money back! __________________ 2002 CTD LWB EXTC, T409 Motoblue 4" exhaust, Auto meter gauges(Boost, Tranny, lift pump, & EGT), Transmission good for 750hp, bulit by AAMCO. Smarty Programmer, FASS 150/95......JDiepstra is my hero!

10-13-2008, 04:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Diesel Dummy Upstate Diesel Performance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central NY in the woods!! Posts: 1,294 Diesel Dummy's Truck Pics	Check to make sure all you connections on the fuel ines are tight and not sucking air, I put a good used vp on and it did the same thing, so i went to a new one, same thing, after 3 months in the garage and a lot of frustration i found a broken clamp that was sucking just enough air so it would not start. Make sure wheen you do the key trick you let it finish, there will be ecu done and pcu done and then back to the odometer. DD __________________ If you need it we sell it! if you think you need it, we sell it! Even if you don't think you need it, but want it, we sell it! Thats it. Upstate Bombers Site