2002 6spd 70,000 mile all stock.Help... Please!

WV02Dodge · 08-22-2008, 07:48 PM

I just came across this website after trying to google my problem. My truck just started acting funny on the way home tonight. When driving thru town at a steady pace, and starting to accelerate it will not respond to added throttle, then 10-15 seconds later it hits (like turning on a light switch)? It happened several times on the way home, but if I did drop a gear it would raise the rpm's and it would take right off. I'm no mechanic, and need any help you can give. I have no check engine lights or so on. Thanks

***dom42*** · 08-22-2008, 07:49 PM

im gonna say it's a fuel issue. but not an expert at it.............

im sure some1 will chime in on this issue.
good luck

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k7gsxr1000- full race bike- ohlins all around-brembo masters-full ti arata exh-pretty much everything

***tramp_line_ape*** · 08-22-2008, 07:51 PM

possibly the vp-44... maybe a 2nd gen guy will chime in.

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TrueValue Truck · 08-22-2008, 07:51 PM

There is some good information in this thread....sounds like the same issue your having...hope it helps....

Occasional dead pedal

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Steveo24 · 08-22-2008, 07:54 PM

Definately sounds like the dead pedal syndrome. Try the APPS sensor reset.

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WV02Dodge · 08-22-2008, 08:07 PM

I'll try that 1st thing in the morning. Bad thing is, I was suppose to take my boys outa town tomorrow.

I'll let you know if it works and keep checking on any other info "IF" I still need it (Hope unplugging cables and resetting things will do it!). And, thanks for all the fast replies.

Last edited by WV02Dodge : 08-22-2008 at 08:15 PM.

WV02Dodge · 08-23-2008, 09:34 AM

So far so good. It does show a p1693 code?

***tramp_line_ape*** · 08-23-2008, 09:43 AM

P1693 DTC Detected in Companion JTEC Mod

not sure what that means, maybe someone with a little more knowledge than me does...

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07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADP TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude

Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages
I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

***dkletti8*** · 08-23-2008, 09:44 AM

I had the same problem with my 02. Luckily it was under warrenty yet. I was pretty sure it was the vp44 injection pump. My dealer started with the lift pump, I went to pick it up and it acted up right away so they ended up replacing the vp44. No problems in the last 2 years.

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02 2500 4x4 5.9HO 6 speed 4"mbrp straight pipe Diablosport Powerpuck BHAF silencer ring mia moon visor sprayed liner
52 Power Wagon all stock

***tramp_line_ape*** · 08-23-2008, 09:50 AM

if you've only got 70k, the motor is still under warranty.... so that would cover lift pump, injection pump.... right?

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07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADP TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude

Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages
I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

WV02Dodge · 08-23-2008, 10:22 AM

Sorry, I was wrong on the mileage..it is at 80,000. I keep getting extended service plans sent in the mail..guess i should have jumped on it. I'm taking it out for a drive in a few and hope its still fine. If not, where is the best/cheapest place to buy a vp44? What kind of $ are we talking....

totalloser · 08-23-2008, 02:37 PM

There are two options that are noteworthy; One is the hot rod vp which gives you an extra 100 hp or so. Performs just like doing 100 hp sticks, I think. The other thing to consider is that the heat cycles somehow cause a problem with the solder to the circuit board in the vp. Something about the solder crystallizing and losing a good contact. Apparently UPS got special ones built using some other kind of solder to deal with this problem. Most rebuilders just test them, they don't fix this. I can't remember the builder that addresses this issue, but it might be worth considering.

The other thing that goes out is a sleeve and pin hogs out when the lp pressure is too low for too long. I think all the rebuilders replace these parts, but the company that does the solder upgrade replaces the aluminum parts with heat treated steel. If I can find the flier I printed, I'll post the manufacturer. My problem when I was looking at this turned out to be lift pump pressure too high (16 psi).

I think the rebuilds range from $1200 to $2500 or so. I am sure there are folks on here with better info, though.

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WV02Dodge Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20 WV02Dodge's Truck Pics	2002 6spd 70,000 mile all stock.Help... Please! I just came across this website after trying to google my problem. My truck just started acting funny on the way home tonight. When driving thru town at a steady pace, and starting to accelerate it will not respond to added throttle, then 10-15 seconds later it hits (like turning on a light switch)? It happened several times on the way home, but if I did drop a gear it would raise the rpm's and it would take right off. I'm no mechanic, and need any help you can give. I have no check engine lights or so on. Thanks

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08-22-2008, 07:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
*dom42* Cummins Diesel ADdict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,189 dom42's Truck Pics	im gonna say it's a fuel issue. but not an expert at it............. im sure some1 will chime in on this issue. good luck __________________ 2006 2500 QCLB 4x4 auto-5" SilverLine TBE - cfm plus- s&b CAI system- 6 inch superlift- kore components- 325/60/20 bfg AT's- 20" motometal- fs2500 on engine & tranny- maghytec all around- 4.10gears- edge juiced/w attitude- truckcoverusa roll out cover- rhino linings- firestone bags- Nfab 6step k7gsxr1000- full race bike- ohlins all around-brembo masters-full ti arata exh-pretty much everything

08-22-2008, 07:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
*tramp_line_ape* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: idaho native, now in Pueblo, co Posts: 689 tramp_line_ape's Truck Pics	possibly the vp-44... maybe a 2nd gen guy will chime in. __________________ 07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADP TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

08-22-2008, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
TrueValue Truck Tech Specialist/Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Caldwell,Ohio Posts: 3,339 TrueValue Truck's Truck Pics	There is some good information in this thread....sounds like the same issue your having...hope it helps.... Occasional dead pedal __________________ Caldwellfire.com 06 3500 SRW MC ,Smarty REVO,X2 Race stack, Commander,CFM, Monster Air COI,AFE Torque tube,FASS 150 HPFP LP,Muffler delete,Tipple disc Converter and VB ,ProComp 2" leveling kit,Timbren's,Reese Class V Tow Beast Ohio Coal Rollers *Cumminsforum.com*

08-22-2008, 07:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Steveo24 Diesel Head Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valparaiso, Indiana Posts: 1,060 Steveo24's Truck Pics	Definately sounds like the dead pedal syndrome. Try the APPS sensor reset. __________________ 98.5 3500 2WD dually 4:10's lAuto Meter fuel, boost, pyro, and trans temp lOne piece headlights+ LED's l5 inch mitre stacks lHX 40 l150 horse Coaltrain sticks l.093 tubes l Smarty lEdge Comp HOT lStage 2 snow kit lBHAF lBD pusher pump lAmsoil, engine+diff

08-22-2008, 08:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
WV02Dodge Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20 WV02Dodge's Truck Pics	I'll try that 1st thing in the morning. Bad thing is, I was suppose to take my boys outa town tomorrow. I'll let you know if it works and keep checking on any other info "IF" I still need it (Hope unplugging cables and resetting things will do it!). And, thanks for all the fast replies. Last edited by WV02Dodge : 08-22-2008 at 08:15 PM.

08-23-2008, 09:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
WV02Dodge Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20 WV02Dodge's Truck Pics	So far so good. It does show a p1693 code?

08-23-2008, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
*tramp_line_ape* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: idaho native, now in Pueblo, co Posts: 689 tramp_line_ape's Truck Pics	P1693 DTC Detected in Companion JTEC Mod not sure what that means, maybe someone with a little more knowledge than me does... __________________ 07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADP TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

08-23-2008, 09:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
*dkletti8* Diesel Tech Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 31 dkletti8's Truck Pics	I had the same problem with my 02. Luckily it was under warrenty yet. I was pretty sure it was the vp44 injection pump. My dealer started with the lift pump, I went to pick it up and it acted up right away so they ended up replacing the vp44. No problems in the last 2 years. __________________ 02 2500 4x4 5.9HO 6 speed 4"mbrp straight pipe Diablosport Powerpuck BHAF silencer ring mia moon visor sprayed liner 52 Power Wagon all stock

08-23-2008, 09:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
*tramp_line_ape* Diesel Freak Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: idaho native, now in Pueblo, co Posts: 689 tramp_line_ape's Truck Pics	if you've only got 70k, the motor is still under warranty.... so that would cover lift pump, injection pump.... right? __________________ 07 6.7 cummins, 6 speed, one-ton, electric blue, gauges, afe intake, MP-8/Superchip, 4" BADP TB, egr delete, edge w/attitude Give him books and give him books, and all he does is eat the pages I.B.E.W. local 57 America is Union

08-23-2008, 10:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
WV02Dodge Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20 WV02Dodge's Truck Pics	Sorry, I was wrong on the mileage..it is at 80,000. I keep getting extended service plans sent in the mail..guess i should have jumped on it. I'm taking it out for a drive in a few and hope its still fine. If not, where is the best/cheapest place to buy a vp44? What kind of $ are we talking....

08-23-2008, 02:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
totalloser Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 720 totalloser's Truck Pics	There are two options that are noteworthy; One is the hot rod vp which gives you an extra 100 hp or so. Performs just like doing 100 hp sticks, I think. The other thing to consider is that the heat cycles somehow cause a problem with the solder to the circuit board in the vp. Something about the solder crystallizing and losing a good contact. Apparently UPS got special ones built using some other kind of solder to deal with this problem. Most rebuilders just test them, they don't fix this. I can't remember the builder that addresses this issue, but it might be worth considering. The other thing that goes out is a sleeve and pin hogs out when the lp pressure is too low for too long. I think all the rebuilders replace these parts, but the company that does the solder upgrade replaces the aluminum parts with heat treated steel. If I can find the flier I printed, I'll post the manufacturer. My problem when I was looking at this turned out to be lift pump pressure too high (16 psi). I think the rebuilds range from $1200 to $2500 or so. I am sure there are folks on here with better info, though. __________________ 01 24v 100hp tips, 4"ss BDbrake &steering brace PSCpump 1.5"dom steering tapped box 1.5"ram manual CAD switch dual carters 3.55's LSD, big shaft nv5600/241HD 6 35's inners pulled in (no spacer) Ugly black and thrashed!