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Old 01-30-2007, 11:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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PS Blue Bottle is their Arctic Express. It is just a straight anti-gel, with no cetane or detergents added. It is an economy anti-gel, whereas the white bottle has basically the whole package. Then the silver bottle, called Diesel Kleen, is a summer package with no anti-gel but more cetane and detergents.

But even the blue bottle is not a degel or deicer. It is just an anti-gel. The red bottle 911 is needed to fix an already gelled fuel to reintegrate the paraffin.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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On the Blue bottle it reads Contains Lubricity Additive. Contains cetane for easier starting. Dave
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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On the Blue bottle it reads Contains Lubricity Additive. Contains cetane for easier starting. Dave
Don't get me started...

Ok how much in a bottle? Lets do the standard 96 ozs makes for 300 Gallons... (96 / 300) = 0.32 ozs of additive for every gallon of fuel. That isn't all lubricant. So lets say 50/50 lube and anti-gel then that makes it 0.16 ozs per gallon of fuel (or 400:1)... Are you noitcing how small that amount is now... I don't think it could lube anything at that rate. 800:1 ratio... So thats 800 parts is 6.25 Gallons of fuel to 1 oz of lubricant or anti-gel...

If you want lubricant dump a 1 quart shot of 2 cycle oil in the tank. That is all oil and it mixes at a ratio of 140:1 to 128:1 roughly. Basically 1 oz of oil for every gallon of fuel. That is 3x stronger than any PS product currently without the solvents!

Funny a snowmobile will run down to -40*F without the oil gelling up... All new sleds are oil injected. Not mixed fuel. If it did gell up the sled engine would be done... (No Lubricant...) Think about it...
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I am interested in this kerosene talk. Is it ok to run like 25% kerosene, 75% #2 ULSD? I don't "think" I will have any IP issues seeing as how I have the p7100, but about the kerosene, how does it affect fuel mileage? Is it bad for the engine in any way? What are some other characteristics that kerosene does?
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I am interested in this kerosene talk. Is it ok to run like 25% kerosene, 75% #2 ULSD? I don't "think" I will have any IP issues seeing as how I have the p7100, but about the kerosene, how does it affect fuel mileage? Is it bad for the engine in any way? What are some other characteristics that kerosene does?
I don't think you need more than about 5% kerosene... About 1-2 Gallons tops... The kerosene is going to reduce the lubricity of the fuel even more... So it will enhance the wear on fuel pumps and other parts.

If it was me I drop a quart of 2 cycle oil on top to help re-lube up the fuel again... But that is only me tho...
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Yeah, kerosene is rough. Just a little, if any, only as an anti-gel. 2 stroke oil is good stuff to run, believe it! (this coming from an AMSOIL dealer) LOL
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2 stroke oil is good stuff to run, believe it! (this coming from an AMSOIL dealer) LOL
That's hard to believe... But after a long PM discussion with DD he figure he would try it... So far his truck is lovin' it...

That's says a lot right there!

Thanx DD!!!
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yep, now we have to convert you to AMSOIL.
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Yep, now we have to convert you to AMSOIL.
PM coming at you...
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Old 02-01-2007, 01:58 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I forgot about the fuel pump, I take it that is lubed by the fuel. I usually dump a quart of PS the white bottle in every tank. Always starts fine but I was just wondering on the kerosene. I guess I should run 2 stroke oil in it since the fuel pump needs it.
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i run amsoil but not in the tank i will try , can i use the injectin oil i run in my sleds?
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:01 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Since the AMSOIL 2 stroke oil is designed to burn clean, I personally feel this would be fine. There are some guys who believe that synthetics don't work for this and you should only run a conventional 2 stroke oil. The jury is still out on this one, and keep in mind that no matter what 2 stroke oil you use, no manufacturer is going to recommend it for what we're doing, since we're not mixing it with gasoline. IMO, it will work fine. Let's see if Mopar1973Man chimes in with other advice.

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