Swapping a VE pump with a P7100 pump

[natd001]

Hey, wise injection pump swappers out there, I could use a little bit of info and guidance on an issue I have. I've recently picked up a '93 Cummins 6-cyl for a swap project. Well, long story short, it didn't come with the injection pump or the pump timing gear. It had the VE pump and I was wondering if a 7100 pump and gear will bolt up, have the same injector firing order, run with the same lines, blahblahblahblah, you guys will have waaay more info on this than I know. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[Philip]

The p-pump will not bolt the the VE housing.

The lines will not interchange. The VE has the lines out the back in a round pattern. The p-pump has the lines across the top of the pump. In a straight line. The p-pump injectors have a different thread count and size. So the p-pump lines wouldn't fit the VE injectors.

[natd001]

Thanks for the info, Philip. I don't know what I was thinking, asking if the lines were the same. Massive brainfart apparently ...

[W150CTDproject]

exactly. so if you are doing the swap find a P-pump, timing gear case and cover from a 2nd gen, injector lines, and injectors. Along with some misc. stuff that im not sure of. check in the performance threads for write-ups on the swap if you are interested.

[Philip]

Originally Posted by W150CTDproject

exactly. so if you are doing the swap find a P-pump, timing gear case and cover from a 2nd gen, injector lines, and injectors. Along with some misc. stuff that im not sure of. check in the performance threads for write-ups on the swap if you are interested.

For what those swaps parts cost used. You can by a reman VE pump.

What are your plans for the VE engine.

[natd001]

It's going into an 89 F-150 4x4. Would have ran with a 4BT, but the cost of those engines is absolutely ridiculous. I looked for awhile for a decent priced 6BT, and finally found one (bargain doesn't even BEGIN to describe what I got it for). Like I said, I'm missing the pump gear, and the pump, and really haven't seen too many VE pumps/pump gears for sale, so I was curious what a P-pump swap would entail. I'm trying to do this on a budget, so completely swapping the timing cover, injectors, lines, and whatever else (the cam comes to mind, possibly), it'll just be easier to stick with the ol' VE, rather than spend the time and money to source all those other parts.

[gotacummins]

Originally Posted by natd001

It's going into an 89 F-150 4x4. Would have ran with a 4BT, but the cost of those engines is absolutely ridiculous. I looked for awhile for a decent priced 6BT, and finally found one (bargain doesn't even BEGIN to describe what I got it for). Like I said, I'm missing the pump gear, and the pump, and really haven't seen too many VE pumps/pump gears for sale, so I was curious what a P-pump swap would entail. I'm trying to do this on a budget, so completely swapping the timing cover, injectors, lines, and whatever else (the cam comes to mind, possibly), it'll just be easier to stick with the ol' VE, rather than spend the time and money to source all those other parts.

Yah stick with a ve I mean you can get 400hp out of a ve and i think that would be plenty for a f150 and if you did get 400 hp out of the ve the TQ would probably twist that f150 in half

[natd001]

HAHAHAHA!!! Naw, for the time being, I'm not looking to have a drag truck. Just a bullet-proof, awesome mileage vehicle with that epic Cummins rumble. Not worried about the frame really, more worried about the manual tranny going "Hey, remember me? I quit."

[Philip]

more worried about the manual tranny going "Hey, remember me? I quit."

thats a good one.

If you throw a WTB add in the 1st gen WTB section I bet you can find a pump gear and pump. There are guys parting or swap to p-pumps pretty often.

[natd001]

Once again, thanks Philip! You're the man! Went looking through there, and found some pretty good deals on those pumps. Before I know it, I'll have an awesome Fummins! :

[Philip]

Good luck on the build.