Trading my 2nd gen for a 1st gen ??

mightywhitey5269 · 03-10-2010, 11:19 AM

Might be trading a guy my 94 p pump auto 4x4 cummins for his 93 4x4 with a 5 speed. What are the differences between these trucks? What are things to look for for the 1st gens? thanks- Andrew

jamo90ram · 03-10-2010, 01:16 PM

1st gens are better and you will be happier =)

trannys are strong, engines are ezzzzzzzzzzzz to mess with

suspension is SUPER strait foward

jamo90ram · 03-10-2010, 01:17 PM

oh ya another plus, no smog!

well idk where you are, but here in california they are now smogging 98+, so 1st gens in cali just became very valuable, im glad i have 2 first gens

gotacummins · 03-10-2010, 01:54 PM

Main diff is the 1st gens have the VE, The pPump is easier to make big power but if your not shooting for over 400 its no big deal, the VE produces more TQ per HP. Post some pics of the 2 and we will let you know if you should or not.

mightywhitey5269 · 03-10-2010, 02:43 PM

For the most part, power isnt a big factor for me. Just mainly reliability. Heres a picture of mine, i'll try and get one of his soon. thanks for the replys

913 Cummins 89 · 03-10-2010, 03:06 PM

reliablitity is about the same for both trucks as far as the motor goes but the tranny for the first gen should be alot more reliable if you dont speed shift or lug it

gotacummins · 03-10-2010, 03:15 PM

No paint on the front centercaps

mightywhitey5269 · 03-10-2010, 03:26 PM

I know it looks stupid

I planned on puttin the back ones on, but they didn't clear and its been too cold here to paint em black. Was just going to repaint the whole rim again once I switched tires until I found this deal.

cnp22 · 03-10-2010, 03:30 PM

Nice truck! beter be a pretty nice first gen. i miss my 96 only for the power thats it. my 92 has good power dont get me wrong its just ez to work on and theres just somthin about an ol' clean 1st gen!

mightywhitey5269 · 03-10-2010, 03:43 PM

Thanks for the compliment! Your definately right. A clean 1st gen that's lifted= sex haha. Also what's the difference between the getrag and nv4500?

cnp22 · 03-10-2010, 03:48 PM

well in my experience the nv4500 shifts way beter i was able to catch gears faster, the get-a-rag

is kinda hard to get in if your shifting kinda fast, as far as power havnt had a problem outa either one. besides a few toasted clutches!

913 Cummins 89 · 03-10-2010, 03:51 PM

the getrag isnt as good in some ways i would say. dont get me wrong they are a great tranny and i would rather have one over a nv4500 but if you like speed shifting the getrag is done for they dont like that a whole lot. the nv4500 you can upgrade the input shafts and stuff like that if you get into really big power the nv4500 is the way to go. but if your gonna stay under like 450hp the getrag is great

03-10-2010, 11:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
mightywhitey5269 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews mightywhitey5269's Truck Pics	Trading my 2nd gen for a 1st gen ?? Might be trading a guy my 94 p pump auto 4x4 cummins for his 93 4x4 with a 5 speed. What are the differences between these trucks? What are things to look for for the 1st gens? thanks- Andrew __________________ 1994 CTD 4x4: 4" full exhaust Auto 370's 16 timing built injection pump #6 plate 3000gsk levelin kit 36's

03-10-2010, 01:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
gotacummins Diesel Freak Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 740 Thanks: 22 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews gotacummins's Truck Pics	Main diff is the 1st gens have the VE, The pPump is easier to make big power but if your not shooting for over 400 its no big deal, the VE produces more TQ per HP. Post some pics of the 2 and we will let you know if you should or not. __________________ "If JESUS bore the cross and died on it for me, ought I not to be willing to take it up for Him?" 93 D250 club cab AT HE351CW, 4" DP and custom exhaust ,cooler tubz, Denny T pin, 3200k spring, BLK H2's 04F250/12V in Progress: Last edited by gotacummins; 03-10-2010 at 01:57 PM.

03-10-2010, 02:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
mightywhitey5269 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews mightywhitey5269's Truck Pics	For the most part, power isnt a big factor for me. Just mainly reliability. Heres a picture of mine, i'll try and get one of his soon. thanks for the replys __________________ 1994 CTD 4x4: 4" full exhaust Auto 370's 16 timing built injection pump #6 plate 3000gsk levelin kit 36's

03-10-2010, 03:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
913 Cummins 89 Cummins Nut Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 384 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews 913 Cummins 89's Truck Pics	reliablitity is about the same for both trucks as far as the motor goes but the tranny for the first gen should be alot more reliable if you dont speed shift or lug it __________________ 1989 non I/C w250, WKA stage 3 Fuel pin, He351 turbo, Pump maxed, 3.5 " cat back. Coming soon, 4" exhaust, Custom intake, and 5x14 injectors

03-10-2010, 03:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
gotacummins Diesel Freak Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 740 Thanks: 22 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews gotacummins's Truck Pics	No paint on the front centercaps __________________ "If JESUS bore the cross and died on it for me, ought I not to be willing to take it up for Him?" 93 D250 club cab AT HE351CW, 4" DP and custom exhaust ,cooler tubz, Denny T pin, 3200k spring, BLK H2's 04F250/12V in Progress:

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03-10-2010, 01:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
jamo90ram Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antioch, ca Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews jamo90ram's Truck Pics	1st gens are better and you will be happier =) trannys are strong, engines are ezzzzzzzzzzzz to mess with suspension is SUPER strait foward

03-10-2010, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
jamo90ram Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antioch, ca Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews jamo90ram's Truck Pics	oh ya another plus, no smog! well idk where you are, but here in california they are now smogging 98+, so 1st gens in cali just became very valuable, im glad i have 2 first gens

03-10-2010, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
mightywhitey5269 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews mightywhitey5269's Truck Pics	I know it looks stupid I planned on puttin the back ones on, but they didn't clear and its been too cold here to paint em black. Was just going to repaint the whole rim again once I switched tires until I found this deal. __________________ 1994 CTD 4x4: 4" full exhaust Auto 370's 16 timing built injection pump #6 plate 3000gsk levelin kit 36's

03-10-2010, 03:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
cnp22 Cummins Nut Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: godley/cleburne tx. Posts: 456 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews cnp22's Truck Pics	Nice truck! beter be a pretty nice first gen. i miss my 96 only for the power thats it. my 92 has good power dont get me wrong its just ez to work on and theres just somthin about an ol' clean 1st gen! __________________ 1992 p-pump, 370's, fass, Valair putting it to the wheels, ladys 1994 auto 4x4 turned up. pics........ http://s721.photobucket.com/albums/w...albumview=grid

03-10-2010, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
mightywhitey5269 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews mightywhitey5269's Truck Pics	Thanks for the compliment! Your definately right. A clean 1st gen that's lifted= sex haha. Also what's the difference between the getrag and nv4500? __________________ 1994 CTD 4x4: 4" full exhaust Auto 370's 16 timing built injection pump #6 plate 3000gsk levelin kit 36's

03-10-2010, 03:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
cnp22 Cummins Nut Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: godley/cleburne tx. Posts: 456 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews cnp22's Truck Pics	well in my experience the nv4500 shifts way beter i was able to catch gears faster, the get-a-rag is kinda hard to get in if your shifting kinda fast, as far as power havnt had a problem outa either one. besides a few toasted clutches! __________________ 1992 p-pump, 370's, fass, Valair putting it to the wheels, ladys 1994 auto 4x4 turned up. pics........ http://s721.photobucket.com/albums/w...albumview=grid

03-10-2010, 03:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
913 Cummins 89 Cummins Nut Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 384 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Score: 0 reviews 913 Cummins 89's Truck Pics	the getrag isnt as good in some ways i would say. dont get me wrong they are a great tranny and i would rather have one over a nv4500 but if you like speed shifting the getrag is done for they dont like that a whole lot. the nv4500 you can upgrade the input shafts and stuff like that if you get into really big power the nv4500 is the way to go. but if your gonna stay under like 450hp the getrag is great __________________ 1989 non I/C w250, WKA stage 3 Fuel pin, He351 turbo, Pump maxed, 3.5 " cat back. Coming soon, 4" exhaust, Custom intake, and 5x14 injectors

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