Fuel Filter

jfc · 10-15-2009, 12:49 PM

Hi, I got a 92 and had my truck run rough at idle a couple days ago (sounded like it was running on three cylinders for about 30 seconds then it recovered) when it was cold out. Thought I would change the fuel filter since I never did it and its been 2 years since I bought the truck. After I changed it it was fine but then the next morning it ran rough, so i thought I should bleed the lines, got that done, this morning it did the same thing, and I noticed I am getting about one drip a minute out of the water drain on the filter, makes me think the water drain valve isnt seatting properly and letting air into the system overnight.

Is this possible? anyone else had this problem? I wish I could put a proper plug in there insted of the existing valve.

Philip · 10-15-2009, 01:27 PM

Yes it is possible. There is another filter that replaces the one we have with the water in fuel sensor. That filer is just a rounded bottom type of filter.

I'll have to look around for the number.

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diaric · 10-15-2009, 01:43 PM

ya, i have the same problem. i can let it sit half an hour and if its parked slightly uphill it will start hard. and this is new water drain /sensor, its only a couple months old

**C.Leonhardt** · 10-15-2009, 07:07 PM

I run the fleetguard FF215 on my 1990, don't think there's a difference between the 89-93's. Just has a drain valve and no sensor, I have never had problems with these and like them because they are a bigger filter

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jfc · 10-16-2009, 05:20 PM

Is the Fleetguard drain valev a push/pull one like the original or is it a plug type that you would use a wrench on?

Philip if you can find that number that would be great I am thinkin of adding water seperator, off one of my parts cruisers, on the frame.

SheffDodgeD250 · 10-16-2009, 07:08 PM

Am i having the same problem? It starts really rough sputtering then stalls. But if u give it a little gas it runs perfect until i shut it off and let it sit then go to start it. It starts rough...??

**C.Leonhardt** · 10-17-2009, 08:03 PM

the fleetguard listed above has a drain valve similar to what is used on the rads

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2007.5 Quad Cab 4x4 6.7L ,Automatic, TS Mp-8,S&B Intake, Flo-pro 5" turbo back,H&S Powered!!, EGR Deleted, PATC Line Pressure Booster, Rokktech Crank Sensor
1990 W250 4x4, 5.9L 5speed Getrag, AFC Spring MIA, Pin Modified, Advanced to the max, 2 turns power screw,Piston Lift Pump...TBI PDI Manifold, 2nd Gen Intercooler, DDP Sticks, Phatshaft 66 Turbo

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gotacummins · 10-17-2009, 09:16 PM

i hought i was having the same problem with my drain valve and then after watching it while it ran, i found out it was coming from the fuel heater sensor above the filter

so i wasted money on buying a new drain valve/water senso and then buying a filter w/o a sensor

see:
Can find fuel leak? Somewhere right above fuel filter

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"If JESUS bore the cross and died on it for me, ought I not to be willing to take it up for Him?" 93 D250 club cab AT HE351CW, 4" DP and custom exhaust ,cooler tubz, Denny T pin, 3200k spring, BLK H2's

Last edited by gotacummins : 10-17-2009 at 09:19 PM.

Philip · 10-17-2009, 10:48 PM

Lok this filter over.

Fleetguard FS1251

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dpuckett · 10-17-2009, 10:54 PM

Make that a FS 1221. Baldwin BF1221.

DP

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Philip · 10-17-2009, 11:57 PM

Thanks DP

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jfc · 10-19-2009, 12:45 PM

thanks guys

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jfc Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort St. John, BC Posts: 41 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jfc's Truck Pics	Fuel Filter Hi, I got a 92 and had my truck run rough at idle a couple days ago (sounded like it was running on three cylinders for about 30 seconds then it recovered) when it was cold out. Thought I would change the fuel filter since I never did it and its been 2 years since I bought the truck. After I changed it it was fine but then the next morning it ran rough, so i thought I should bleed the lines, got that done, this morning it did the same thing, and I noticed I am getting about one drip a minute out of the water drain on the filter, makes me think the water drain valve isnt seatting properly and letting air into the system overnight. Is this possible? anyone else had this problem? I wish I could put a proper plug in there insted of the existing valve.

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10-15-2009, 01:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Philip 1ST GEN MODERATOR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,115 Thanks: 2 Thanked 131 Times in 121 Posts Philip's Truck Pics	Yes it is possible. There is another filter that replaces the one we have with the water in fuel sensor. That filer is just a rounded bottom type of filter. I'll have to look around for the number. __________________ 93 W350 w/duals, fuel pin turned, 6X.018" injectors, 4" exhaust, 3" air intake horn, Super HX40/16, auto, 3:07's axles, 2" skyjacker lift, B&W flatbed

10-15-2009, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
diaric Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts diaric's Truck Pics	ya, i have the same problem. i can let it sit half an hour and if its parked slightly uphill it will start hard. and this is new water drain /sensor, its only a couple months old

10-15-2009, 07:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
C.Leonhardt Who's been a dirty boy... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rimbey,Alberta Posts: 233 Thanks: 11 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts C.Leonhardt's Truck Pics	I run the fleetguard FF215 on my 1990, don't think there's a difference between the 89-93's. Just has a drain valve and no sensor, I have never had problems with these and like them because they are a bigger filter __________________ 2007.5 Quad Cab 4x4 6.7L ,Automatic, TS Mp-8,S&B Intake, Flo-pro 5" turbo back,H&S Powered!!, EGR Deleted, PATC Line Pressure Booster, Rokktech Crank Sensor 1990 W250 4x4, 5.9L 5speed Getrag, AFC Spring MIA, Pin Modified, Advanced to the max, 2 turns power screw,Piston Lift Pump...TBI PDI Manifold, 2nd Gen Intercooler, DDP Sticks, Phatshaft 66 Turbo www.dirtydieselcustoms.com

10-16-2009, 05:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
jfc Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort St. John, BC Posts: 41 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jfc's Truck Pics	Is the Fleetguard drain valev a push/pull one like the original or is it a plug type that you would use a wrench on? Philip if you can find that number that would be great I am thinkin of adding water seperator, off one of my parts cruisers, on the frame.

10-16-2009, 07:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
SheffDodgeD250 Cummins Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SheffDodgeD250's Truck Pics	Am i having the same problem? It starts really rough sputtering then stalls. But if u give it a little gas it runs perfect until i shut it off and let it sit then go to start it. It starts rough...??

10-17-2009, 08:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
C.Leonhardt Who's been a dirty boy... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rimbey,Alberta Posts: 233 Thanks: 11 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts C.Leonhardt's Truck Pics	the fleetguard listed above has a drain valve similar to what is used on the rads __________________ 2007.5 Quad Cab 4x4 6.7L ,Automatic, TS Mp-8,S&B Intake, Flo-pro 5" turbo back,H&S Powered!!, EGR Deleted, PATC Line Pressure Booster, Rokktech Crank Sensor 1990 W250 4x4, 5.9L 5speed Getrag, AFC Spring MIA, Pin Modified, Advanced to the max, 2 turns power screw,Piston Lift Pump...TBI PDI Manifold, 2nd Gen Intercooler, DDP Sticks, Phatshaft 66 Turbo www.dirtydieselcustoms.com

10-17-2009, 09:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
gotacummins Cummins Nut Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 478 Thanks: 18 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts gotacummins's Truck Pics	i hought i was having the same problem with my drain valve and then after watching it while it ran, i found out it was coming from the fuel heater sensor above the filter so i wasted money on buying a new drain valve/water senso and then buying a filter w/o a sensor see: Can find fuel leak? Somewhere right above fuel filter __________________ "If JESUS bore the cross and died on it for me, ought I not to be willing to take it up for Him?" 93 D250 club cab AT HE351CW, 4" DP and custom exhaust ,cooler tubz, Denny T pin, 3200k spring, BLK H2's Last edited by gotacummins : 10-17-2009 at 09:19 PM.

10-17-2009, 10:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Philip 1ST GEN MODERATOR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,115 Thanks: 2 Thanked 131 Times in 121 Posts Philip's Truck Pics	Lok this filter over. Fleetguard FS1251 __________________ 93 W350 w/duals, fuel pin turned, 6X.018" injectors, 4" exhaust, 3" air intake horn, Super HX40/16, auto, 3:07's axles, 2" skyjacker lift, B&W flatbed

10-17-2009, 10:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
dpuckett Cummins Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cape Girardeau MO Posts: 466 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts dpuckett's Truck Pics	Make that a FS 1221. Baldwin BF1221. DP __________________ 92 W350 xcab LE, 5spd, 3.54s pump tweaks, piston lift pump, 60mm/ 16cm turbo. plain tailpipe with muffler. For sale

10-17-2009, 11:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Philip 1ST GEN MODERATOR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,115 Thanks: 2 Thanked 131 Times in 121 Posts Philip's Truck Pics	Thanks DP __________________ 93 W350 w/duals, fuel pin turned, 6X.018" injectors, 4" exhaust, 3" air intake horn, Super HX40/16, auto, 3:07's axles, 2" skyjacker lift, B&W flatbed

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jfc Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort St. John, BC Posts: 41 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts jfc's Truck Pics	thanks guys