air dog or piston lp off a 2nd gen.

CTD Performance Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:15 PM

hey all,

i was wondering which would be better for the truck in my sig. An airdog 100 or 150 or the 2nd lify pump with a regulator.

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1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

diesel dawg · 11-06-2009, 10:21 PM

i think theres no comparison!
2nd gen lp still uses the restrictive fuel lines and filter
but im not bashing it many people have success with it
but
the air dog or fass are all 1/2 inch lines!!
better filtering
im working on a fuel system upgrade myself!!
good luck

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90 w250 4 inch pipe ,h1c turbo, pump mods, 727, 1400stall tc, 274 hp 639 ft lb on a 1500 hp mustang chassis dyno

CTD Performance Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:24 PM

thanks for the quick reply and thats what i was thinking, and the airdog or fass have all the lines and fittings so that makes it better that searcning around for them but like u said i'm not bashing on the 2nd gen lp i just think those pumps make more sense.

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1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

ZSkibo · 11-06-2009, 10:24 PM

I went all 1/2" lines, a bypass reg, and 2nd gen pump over the AD/FASS setup because I don't want to have to rely on anything electrical on my truck. I know I could get more fuel from an electric but I don't need it yet nor will I for a long while.

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

diesel dawg · 11-06-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD Performance Junkie

thanks for the quick reply and thats what i was thinking, and the airdog or fass have all the lines and fittings so that makes it better that searcning around for them but like u said i'm not bashing on the 2nd gen lp i just think those pumps make more sense.

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90 w250 4 inch pipe ,h1c turbo, pump mods, 727, 1400stall tc, 274 hp 639 ft lb on a 1500 hp mustang chassis dyno

soot4brains · 11-06-2009, 10:30 PM

I have an airdog 150, and I love it, very consistent fuel pressure all the time. I am also the type that prefers mechanical over electrical any day, but I was afraid after I am done with the mods to this thing I was gunna be past what a piston pump could handle, so I went against my better judgement and got this. Been great so far, 1/2 kit was pretty easy to install. Smoothed the truck out a bit too. Average mileage is about 1 mpg better than before the airdog.

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93 Dodge D250- 190 sticks, hx35/super40 hybrid, 4 inch exhaust, Helix 2 cam, 5 speed, pump tweaked, M5 fuel pin. coming soon : powerstroke intercooler, bht3b twins, airdog 150, 3 inch tworline tubes, bigger sticks!! Uncorrected #'s 331 hp 750tq

Richard LeBar · 11-06-2009, 11:28 PM

as far as price which is cheaper? and overall which is easier to install?

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1991.5 W250 3.55 Auto CTD. DDP4, modified DennyT pin, 366, He351, 4" turbo back straight pipe, bumped timing. ~ 251.4hp/562.5 tq corrected ~ Borgeson shaft, Amsoil 4091 air filter, home-made intake, Amsoil 5W-30 synth. w/ bypass.

ZSkibo · 11-06-2009, 11:41 PM

2nd gen pump is cheaper, AD/FASS has to be easier to install.

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

CTD Performance Junkie · 11-06-2009, 11:53 PM

thats kinda what i was looking for was ease of instalation because i'm that lazy but your right about haveing the mechanical over electric part.

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1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

ZSkibo · 11-07-2009, 07:46 AM

When I say easier it's not by much. You still have to drop tank, run lines, install fittings...there's just a few less fittings to install. Up to you what you do.

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

CTD Performance Junkie · 11-07-2009, 02:42 PM

ya your right but it also depends on money so i'll keep you guys posted.

thanks for the help.

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1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

CTD Performance Junkie · 11-13-2009, 09:33 PM

did you guys know they make an airdog 150 for our 1stgens now, here take a look.Cummins Airdog Fuel Pump & Filter System 150GPH 89-93 12 Valve 5.9L A1SPBD337

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1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

11-06-2009, 10:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
CTD Performance Junkie Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD Performance Junkie's Truck Pics	air dog or piston lp off a 2nd gen. hey all, i was wondering which would be better for the truck in my sig. An airdog 100 or 150 or the 2nd lify pump with a regulator. __________________ 1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

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11-06-2009, 10:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
diesel dawg Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 228 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts diesel dawg's Truck Pics	i think theres no comparison! 2nd gen lp still uses the restrictive fuel lines and filter but im not bashing it many people have success with it but the air dog or fass are all 1/2 inch lines!! better filtering im working on a fuel system upgrade myself!! good luck __________________ 90 w250 4 inch pipe ,h1c turbo, pump mods, 727, 1400stall tc, 274 hp 639 ft lb on a 1500 hp mustang chassis dyno

11-06-2009, 10:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
CTD Performance Junkie Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD Performance Junkie's Truck Pics	thanks for the quick reply and thats what i was thinking, and the airdog or fass have all the lines and fittings so that makes it better that searcning around for them but like u said i'm not bashing on the 2nd gen lp i just think those pumps make more sense. __________________ 1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

11-06-2009, 10:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	I went all 1/2" lines, a bypass reg, and 2nd gen pump over the AD/FASS setup because I don't want to have to rely on anything electrical on my truck. I know I could get more fuel from an electric but I don't need it yet nor will I for a long while. __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

11-06-2009, 10:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
soot4brains Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mesa Arizona Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts soot4brains's Truck Pics	I have an airdog 150, and I love it, very consistent fuel pressure all the time. I am also the type that prefers mechanical over electrical any day, but I was afraid after I am done with the mods to this thing I was gunna be past what a piston pump could handle, so I went against my better judgement and got this. Been great so far, 1/2 kit was pretty easy to install. Smoothed the truck out a bit too. Average mileage is about 1 mpg better than before the airdog. __________________ 93 Dodge D250- 190 sticks, hx35/super40 hybrid, 4 inch exhaust, Helix 2 cam, 5 speed, pump tweaked, M5 fuel pin. coming soon : powerstroke intercooler, bht3b twins, airdog 150, 3 inch tworline tubes, bigger sticks!! Uncorrected #'s 331 hp 750tq

11-06-2009, 11:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Richard LeBar Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Posts: 506 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Richard LeBar's Truck Pics	as far as price which is cheaper? and overall which is easier to install? __________________ 1991.5 W250 3.55 Auto CTD. DDP4, modified DennyT pin, 366, He351, 4" turbo back straight pipe, bumped timing. ~ 251.4hp/562.5 tq corrected ~ Borgeson shaft, Amsoil 4091 air filter, home-made intake, Amsoil 5W-30 synth. w/ bypass.

11-06-2009, 11:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	2nd gen pump is cheaper, AD/FASS has to be easier to install. __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

11-06-2009, 11:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
CTD Performance Junkie Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD Performance Junkie's Truck Pics	thats kinda what i was looking for was ease of instalation because i'm that lazy but your right about haveing the mechanical over electric part. __________________ 1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

11-07-2009, 07:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	When I say easier it's not by much. You still have to drop tank, run lines, install fittings...there's just a few less fittings to install. Up to you what you do. __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

11-07-2009, 02:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
CTD Performance Junkie Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD Performance Junkie's Truck Pics	ya your right but it also depends on money so i'll keep you guys posted. thanks for the help. __________________ 1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now

11-13-2009, 09:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
CTD Performance Junkie Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle wyoming Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts CTD Performance Junkie's Truck Pics	did you guys know they make an airdog 150 for our 1stgens now, here take a look.Cummins Airdog Fuel Pump & Filter System 150GPH 89-93 12 Valve 5.9L A1SPBD337 __________________ 1992 Dodge CTD, RCLB, W250, 5x.014's, fuel pump maxed, timing 1/8'',bully dog pin, bully dog 4'' exhaust, 366 spring, traction bars, ASA mods intake, and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo from jacob@diesel auto power, great deal and price, really rollin coal now