H.O. capable Shutoff Solenoid

ZSkibo · 11-06-2009, 09:35 PM

So I've been thinking (drumroll please)...my truck is currently a cable-shutoff baby as a result of a shredded fuel shutoff solenoid (FSO). I've had the cable on for over a year, no problems until yesterday when the mild steel wire that is the inside part of my cable (just a cheap manual choke cable) snapped off. Probably as a result of moving back and forth a million times. Now getting a new cable is no big deal ($30?) or getting a better, heavier cable ($60-80 or more) is also an option BUT on my drive home today I began the thinking part. Some of you guys have sanded the ends of your rubber stopper deals inside the FSO and got it to work again, more or less, and some of you haven't had luck this way. I even read somewhere where one style of FSO tip is solid and will work without the rubber portion on. Now I could also continue to buy replacements and hope the tips don't erode off but that probably wont happen. What if I took a new FSO plunger and had a solid steel unit turned on a lathe to be an exact replica only in all steel rather than erodable (is that even a word?) rubber? This would work AND not break under higher pressure right? I mean, these could be made for like nothing and no one would have to run cables anymore (if they didn't want to. I kinda like it except for when they break). Anyone have anything to say about this? Has it been done?

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

Key1989 · 11-07-2009, 12:15 AM

I wanna know how you used/set u a cable system because I wanna get rid of the electrical ****!

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93 W250,Dennyt fuel pin,366,4" in lift,35" tires,Tint 1.9%
93 W350,Dennyt fuel pin, Airbags(on the front), 3rd gen seats, 5" exhaust from t-case back.... 6" Stacks WANTED

1stgenjake · 11-07-2009, 02:31 AM

i used a ACE Hardware cable and a big rig dip stick cummins sent me for no reason at all lol. ill post pics somday

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'93 w250- PODs, Isspro 4k tach, autometer boost, fuel pressure, and EGT gauges, 4" dp to 5" single stack with rain cap, BD fuel pin, pump maxed, 366, Amsoil cold air, He351 55psi, Valair ceramic clutch. piston lift pump, ARP studs .20 over gasket

ZSkibo · 11-07-2009, 07:44 AM

You just mount the cable in/through the dash, run it in as straight a line as possible to the emergency shutoff lever on your pump, rig the end of the cable through the lever and that's it. Pull to stop truck. Push to make truck run.

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

***unixcowboy*** · 11-07-2009, 11:02 AM

ZSkibo,
Only problem I see is the solenoid may not have enough magnetic pull to lift a solid steel plunger.
I've got the plunger style that is solid, believe I bought the one for a VW on ebay. The tip is solid - the rest is a tube.
The tip has no rubber on it and I've had no problems yet. Been working since S.O.P. 6 - beginning of Oct.
I even turned the pump back up to the edge of runaway.

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'93 D250 CC HX-40 60/65/17 w/hx50 flange - hit 57 held 55 psi OOPS => 6x16's <=, 366 spring w/1 turn clipped, power screw bottomed-backed off 1/2 turn, Ol Smokey's power pin(modified), removed limit washer, smoke screw fully out, starwheel 4 up - modified top to get pin higher, '94 built trans - clutches and some hard parts, trans cooler in front of radiator, 4510 w/4 1/2" intake and heat shield, htr grids MIA, 4" dp -> 5" pipe -> 5" Stack, 285's rear 265's front

ZSkibo · 11-07-2009, 05:39 PM

Hmmm...a VW FSO you say? Have a link to one so I know I'm getting the right thing?

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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

***unixcowboy*** · 11-07-2009, 07:30 PM

No sorry.
Got it on eBay...
Search for fuel shutoff, then search diesel. Or try VW then diesel then fuel shutoff...

Just checked eBay - nothing listed now.
Try checking at your local dealer. Mine said he usually kept one in stock but didn't have one on hand and he could get in 2 -3 days. Don't remember the dealer price but it was ~ $30.

Looks exactly like ours.

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'93 D250 CC HX-40 60/65/17 w/hx50 flange - hit 57 held 55 psi OOPS => 6x16's <=, 366 spring w/1 turn clipped, power screw bottomed-backed off 1/2 turn, Ol Smokey's power pin(modified), removed limit washer, smoke screw fully out, starwheel 4 up - modified top to get pin higher, '94 built trans - clutches and some hard parts, trans cooler in front of radiator, 4510 w/4 1/2" intake and heat shield, htr grids MIA, 4" dp -> 5" pipe -> 5" Stack, 285's rear 265's front

11-06-2009, 09:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	H.O. capable Shutoff Solenoid So I've been thinking (drumroll please)...my truck is currently a cable-shutoff baby as a result of a shredded fuel shutoff solenoid (FSO). I've had the cable on for over a year, no problems until yesterday when the mild steel wire that is the inside part of my cable (just a cheap manual choke cable) snapped off. Probably as a result of moving back and forth a million times. Now getting a new cable is no big deal ($30?) or getting a better, heavier cable ($60-80 or more) is also an option BUT on my drive home today I began the thinking part. Some of you guys have sanded the ends of your rubber stopper deals inside the FSO and got it to work again, more or less, and some of you haven't had luck this way. I even read somewhere where one style of FSO tip is solid and will work without the rubber portion on. Now I could also continue to buy replacements and hope the tips don't erode off but that probably wont happen. What if I took a new FSO plunger and had a solid steel unit turned on a lathe to be an exact replica only in all steel rather than erodable (is that even a word?) rubber? This would work AND not break under higher pressure right? I mean, these could be made for like nothing and no one would have to run cables anymore (if they didn't want to. I kinda like it except for when they break). Anyone have anything to say about this? Has it been done? __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

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11-07-2009, 12:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Key1989 Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Key1989's Truck Pics	I wanna know how you used/set u a cable system because I wanna get rid of the electrical ****! __________________ 93 W250,Dennyt fuel pin,366,4" in lift,35" tires,Tint 1.9% 93 W350,Dennyt fuel pin, Airbags(on the front), 3rd gen seats, 5" exhaust from t-case back.... 6" Stacks WANTED

11-07-2009, 02:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
1stgenjake Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts 1stgenjake's Truck Pics	i used a ACE Hardware cable and a big rig dip stick cummins sent me for no reason at all lol. ill post pics somday __________________ '93 w250- PODs, Isspro 4k tach, autometer boost, fuel pressure, and EGT gauges, 4" dp to 5" single stack with rain cap, BD fuel pin, pump maxed, 366, Amsoil cold air, He351 55psi, Valair ceramic clutch. piston lift pump, ARP studs .20 over gasket

11-07-2009, 07:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	You just mount the cable in/through the dash, run it in as straight a line as possible to the emergency shutoff lever on your pump, rig the end of the cable through the lever and that's it. Pull to stop truck. Push to make truck run. __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

11-07-2009, 11:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
*unixcowboy* Diesel Freak Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mi Posts: 970 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts unixcowboy's Truck Pics	ZSkibo, Only problem I see is the solenoid may not have enough magnetic pull to lift a solid steel plunger. I've got the plunger style that is solid, believe I bought the one for a VW on ebay. The tip is solid - the rest is a tube. The tip has no rubber on it and I've had no problems yet. Been working since S.O.P. 6 - beginning of Oct. I even turned the pump back up to the edge of runaway. __________________ '93 D250 CC HX-40 60/65/17 w/hx50 flange - hit 57 held 55 psi OOPS => 6x16's <=, 366 spring w/1 turn clipped, power screw bottomed-backed off 1/2 turn, Ol Smokey's power pin(modified), removed limit washer, smoke screw fully out, starwheel 4 up - modified top to get pin higher, '94 built trans - clutches and some hard parts, trans cooler in front of radiator, 4510 w/4 1/2" intake and heat shield, htr grids MIA, 4" dp -> 5" pipe -> 5" Stack, 285's rear 265's front

11-07-2009, 05:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZSkibo Cummins Nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Unionville, PA Posts: 325 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts ZSkibo's Truck Pics	Hmmm...a VW FSO you say? Have a link to one so I know I'm getting the right thing? __________________ 92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns!

11-07-2009, 07:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
*unixcowboy* Diesel Freak Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mi Posts: 970 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts unixcowboy's Truck Pics	No sorry. Got it on eBay... Search for fuel shutoff, then search diesel. Or try VW then diesel then fuel shutoff... Just checked eBay - nothing listed now. Try checking at your local dealer. Mine said he usually kept one in stock but didn't have one on hand and he could get in 2 -3 days. Don't remember the dealer price but it was ~ $30. Looks exactly like ours. __________________ '93 D250 CC HX-40 60/65/17 w/hx50 flange - hit 57 held 55 psi OOPS => 6x16's <=, 366 spring w/1 turn clipped, power screw bottomed-backed off 1/2 turn, Ol Smokey's power pin(modified), removed limit washer, smoke screw fully out, starwheel 4 up - modified top to get pin higher, '94 built trans - clutches and some hard parts, trans cooler in front of radiator, 4510 w/4 1/2" intake and heat shield, htr grids MIA, 4" dp -> 5" pipe -> 5" Stack, 285's rear 265's front