Yet another "what turbo" thread

freak007 · 10-31-2009, 01:44 AM

I have recently purchased a '92 W250 with a 5 speed that is soon to become my winter beater... I intend to do some mods to it over the winter, and then when spring comes it will be getting ripped apart for a conversion on my '85 W350 Crew Cab.

My crew has been lifted 6" and is currently running 35" tires (weighs 6400 unloaded now with the small block). My end goal is to have a truck that I can use use to take the family on cross country trips, tow my trailer (up to 10,000 pounds) and surprise a few ricers... I am thinking 300-325 Hp... The whole time getting 18-20 MPG and being rock solid dependable...

I have recently discovered that my existing turbo (21cm) is pretty rough... Since I intended to upgrade it anyway, I am not too disappointed, but I think now is a good time to start looking for a replacement (before snow flys)

With that said, biased on my goals, what would you guys suggest for a turbo?

philip_arellano · 10-31-2009, 01:50 AM

S300.......

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c_houchins8_182 · 10-31-2009, 02:01 AM

Try an hx35/40 hybrid

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crossy's son · 10-31-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by c_houchins8_182

Try an hx35/40 hybrid

Too small for 325hP and towing.

Super HX40 sounds like the turbo for you.

They're $1100 from HTT Its a 60/65/16

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Mr. Bob · 10-31-2009, 06:51 PM

Seems like the S300 is a very popular choice... If you are building on a budget then a used HE351 may be something to look into...

What injectors are you planning to run??

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jmd025 · 10-31-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crossy's son

Too small for 325hP and towing.

Super HX40 sounds like the turbo for you.

They're $1100 from HTT Its a 60/65/16

For that kinda money you can easily buy an s300 62/65/14

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freak007 · 11-01-2009, 07:49 AM

Before I posted this thread I did alot of reading... The turbos I was considering were:

Modified H1C
HX35/40
Super HX40
S300

I found a place locally that said they will sell a rebuilt H1C with a 14cm W/G exhaust for ~$600, If I wanted a compressor upgrade ("standard" 52 or 56,58 or 60 with MWES) also it would be another $200-$250. A Super S300 was ~$1100, 35/40 was ~$1200-1500 depending on the turbine. He wasn't sure about the Super 40...

I do have some reservations about the HX40 series, because it seems they have weaker shafts...

I am not afraid of mild fabrication, but I do want something that will "bolt on". By bolt on I mean is simple to install with the correct downpipe etc... I would also like to get a turbo that will work fairly well on a stock engine, but will excel when the mods start coming...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Bob

What injectors are you planning to run??

I hadn't gotten that far yet :P

C-Power · 11-01-2009, 10:58 AM

it kinda all depends on how hot of stixs your goin with..... if you get too big of turbo and not big stixs your gonna be real laggy slow and pullin would get extremely hot

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crossy's son · 11-01-2009, 01:54 PM

Whats the specs on the SUPER s300 for $1100 ?? sounds like good deal.

the price on the H1c and the HX35/40 hyrbrids is crazy though....

You won't break an HX40 shaft with a VE pump, its been discussed before. Lots of overfueled P-pumpers are breaking the HX40's coming down from High rpm and 45psi....

And besides that the SUPER hx40 has an upgraded shaft.

I'd try to go towards a 65mm turbine or bigger...get away from the H1/hx5 60mm turbine...jump up to at least a 65mm .

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C-Power · 11-01-2009, 02:02 PM

im not sure but isnt a 65mm kind of a big turbo for a ve pumped truck???? thats bigger then the D-Max turbo!!!!! i think 2.6 class turbo's can only go up to 64mm......ok i went back up and read his first post again.. he wants 300-325hp......that wont spool a 65mm turbo....... not effectively.....i dont know whats the specs of the first gen hx35's.....

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crossy's son · 11-01-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Power

im not sure but isnt a 65mm kind of a big turbo for a ve pumped truck???? thats bigger then the D-Max turbo!!!!! i think 2.6 class turbo's can only go up to 64mm......ok i went back up and read his first post again.. he wants 300-325hp......that wont spool a 65mm turbo....... not effectively.....i dont know whats the specs of the first gen hx35's.....

65mm TURBINE

Not compresor. 60-62mm is the Compressor size you want on a VE truck....and the 65mm turbine is perfect. A.K.A 60/65/12 = HTB2

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C-Power · 11-01-2009, 04:32 PM

ohhh i c....... i didnt read your other post close enough..... still that would be laggy w/ out alot of fuel.....

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10-31-2009, 01:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
freak007 Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts freak007's Truck Pics	Yet another "what turbo" thread I have recently purchased a '92 W250 with a 5 speed that is soon to become my winter beater... I intend to do some mods to it over the winter, and then when spring comes it will be getting ripped apart for a conversion on my '85 W350 Crew Cab. My crew has been lifted 6" and is currently running 35" tires (weighs 6400 unloaded now with the small block). My end goal is to have a truck that I can use use to take the family on cross country trips, tow my trailer (up to 10,000 pounds) and surprise a few ricers... I am thinking 300-325 Hp... The whole time getting 18-20 MPG and being rock solid dependable... I have recently discovered that my existing turbo (21cm) is pretty rough... Since I intended to upgrade it anyway, I am not too disappointed, but I think now is a good time to start looking for a replacement (before snow flys) With that said, biased on my goals, what would you guys suggest for a turbo?

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philip_arellano Cummins Nut Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 309 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts philip_arellano's Truck Pics	S300....... __________________ 92 dodge 3/4 4x4, fuel screw 1/2 turn away from runaway, afc wheel smashed, auto meter pyro and boost, 4'' straight piped, denny stage II pin, 5X14 injectors, timing advanced 1/8'', smoke screw all the way down, BHAF.

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c_houchins8_182 Diesel Freak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Napoleon Ohio Posts: 980 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts c_houchins8_182's Truck Pics	Try an hx35/40 hybrid __________________ 94 RCLB 4x4-5 speed swap-Almost back together OHIO COAL ROLLERS

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Mr. Bob Cummins Fan Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mr. Bob's Truck Pics	Seems like the S300 is a very popular choice... If you are building on a budget then a used HE351 may be something to look into... What injectors are you planning to run?? __________________ 1995 Ford F350 XLT CC LB, 4X4, ZF5 speed, Waiting for install 1993 Cummins Engine, Denny T fuel pin, 3200 gov spring, PSD Intercooler, Electric fuel pump, Intake, Exhaust, Gauges, Southbend Clutch... In search of an Injector/Turbo combo!!! Cam $ allow...

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C-Power Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: defiance, ohio Posts: 1,058 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts C-Power's Truck Pics	it kinda all depends on how hot of stixs your goin with..... if you get too big of turbo and not big stixs your gonna be real laggy slow and pullin would get extremely hot __________________ ~2001 GMC DURAMAX Crew Cab~K&N Intake~4in turbo back ~5in miters~Quadzilla Stealth 2 (not impressed) ~3in leveling kit~american racing rims~305's FOR SALE PM ME Last edited by C-Power : 11-01-2009 at 11:43 AM. Reason: cleaned up my post.....

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crossy's son Cummins Nut Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY, Lil town of pennsville Posts: 335 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts crossy's son's Truck Pics	Whats the specs on the SUPER s300 for $1100 ?? sounds like good deal. the price on the H1c and the HX35/40 hyrbrids is crazy though.... You won't break an HX40 shaft with a VE pump, its been discussed before. Lots of overfueled P-pumpers are breaking the HX40's coming down from High rpm and 45psi.... And besides that the SUPER hx40 has an upgraded shaft. I'd try to go towards a 65mm turbine or bigger...get away from the H1/hx5 60mm turbine...jump up to at least a 65mm . __________________ 1991.0 D250, 5spd, 3.54LS, resto in progress 1993 D250, 5 spd, 3.54, 350k... 3200 spring, +1 turn on power screw, timing +3/16,tranny overfilled 10w-30

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C-Power Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: defiance, ohio Posts: 1,058 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts C-Power's Truck Pics	im not sure but isnt a 65mm kind of a big turbo for a ve pumped truck???? thats bigger then the D-Max turbo!!!!! i think 2.6 class turbo's can only go up to 64mm......ok i went back up and read his first post again.. he wants 300-325hp......that wont spool a 65mm turbo....... not effectively.....i dont know whats the specs of the first gen hx35's..... __________________ ~2001 GMC DURAMAX Crew Cab~K&N Intake~4in turbo back ~5in miters~Quadzilla Stealth 2 (not impressed) ~3in leveling kit~american racing rims~305's FOR SALE PM ME Last edited by C-Power : 11-01-2009 at 02:07 PM.

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C-Power Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: defiance, ohio Posts: 1,058 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts C-Power's Truck Pics	ohhh i c....... i didnt read your other post close enough..... still that would be laggy w/ out alot of fuel..... __________________ ~2001 GMC DURAMAX Crew Cab~K&N Intake~4in turbo back ~5in miters~Quadzilla Stealth 2 (not impressed) ~3in leveling kit~american racing rims~305's FOR SALE PM ME