Pods

[peobryant]

Originally Posted by Orangeracer

First off There is alot of BS in this thred.
First. Show me a stock injector that flows the same amount of fuel as a POD and i will Not say it is BULL .
2nd. Pods are the cheapest way to make power up to 400hp.
3td They dont call them Price Of No Darkness because they smoke less then stock. Lets see your smoke?
The Pods have 4 or 5 ports to inject fuel into the cylander.

I am almost positive that the spray pattern is good for intercooler motor because there is a difference between the two. when i ordered them i think i had to say if it was pre 91 or post.

The pods do get hot but if you want bolt on 60hp easy its the cheapest way. If you want to spend 800 you can get ones that burn a little cleaner and get about 2mpg better.

1. The Stock Non I/C injectors are a little smaller than POD's, and there have been a few people claiming 400rwhp on stock Non I/C injectors. It's common knowledge that Non I/C engines have huge injectors (compared to I/C engines). Non I/C are 4X.012 and POD's are 4X.014.

2. Again, if you have a stock Non I/C engine, POD's aren't the easiest way to get to 400rwhp, the stock injectors are. With an intercooled engine, I agree, POD's are the cheapest way.

3. I don't see who is claiming they don't smoke? One guy claimed his stock Non I/C injectors smoke that much, but I can't see anything else. I must be getting old...

Non I/C engines have different pistons bowls than the I/C engines, and "supposedly" the POD's are more suited to the spray angle of a Non I/C engine. It is generally accepted that POD's have the wrong spray angle for our trucks, hence why they make so much smoke and heat.

Kind of like the "marine" injectors people put in these trucks.

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Brothers: '97 2500, 12 Valve, 4wd, 5spd, 716rwhp, 1200+rwtq, Single turbo, Fuel only

[1bad93]

I have been told that in order to get rid of the haze at idle, you'll need to run very advanced timing. Not sure if there is any truth to that.



just to shed some light on the timing thing you said ive been runnin pods for a few months now and yes the timing helps in haze because the injector bar is diffrent i think pods are 165 and stockers are 145 so the advanced timing help put bar in order so if you do get a set put the timing to the head, wont haze and gets alot more power out of them. and to say if pods are worth gettin a smart man told me that thier not meant for are trucks, there a mairne injector but for best bang for your buck thier about the best thing for a intercooled truck. sorry i ranted but i hope this helps.

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[ZSkibo]

Well, I have a set of PODs, run them for about a year now. They don't haze, my timing is 1/8" advanced, they don't smoke too bad (my AFC is out so that's a LITTLE subjective HA HA)...all around, they were cool for what I could afford at the time. Going to 6x.016s soon.

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[JNDcumminscowboy]

what are DDP4s if you dont mind me asking and whats better coaltrain or PODs I dont care about MPGs or cops pulling me over for clouding the streets LoL

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[Savemopar]

i tell yall what ya need...just get some damn fish sticks and shove them in their im sure it would smoke...hahahha naw seriously if your looking for a mild upgrade what do you go to? pods or bosch 190s? ive only heard good about the 190s but i have heard good and bad about pods which is gunna give me a lil smoke ok alot of smoke but wont mealt all my stuff and make my truck a pos in a year..

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1993 W-250 HX35, Wastegate clamped, silencer ring removed, ats manifold, green airfilter, straight pipe exhaust, pump tweaked, 6 in lift, glowshift boost and pyro gauges,ISSPRO 3grand tach and ddp3s, 256 rwhp and 606 ft lbs. more to come.

[Orangeracer]

I think that the ddp4s are 80hp injectors that get better fuel mpg. Supposdely. They are on google. if you look

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[1bad93]

ddp 4 are a really clean and good injector but they also coast a boat load, 370s are alittle bigger than pods and will probley smoke less or the same a coast a little more (depends on who you look at) and pods are smokie and cheap and make good power and 190s are well there samller then stock but more effent hence why they give you more power. but all these injector questions all come down to what your trying to do with your truck. like for towing and dont want to upgrade the turbo 190s are the way to go, but if you want a cheap race truck thats only gona carry your but around pods are the way to go, and ddp 4 are good for a guy who wants power with out a crazy amount of smoke and good power with mpgs.

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1993 dodge power ram le 4x4 5speed, 6in skyjacker 35in mickey tompson, hx 35/40 hybrid, afe cold air intake, ddp fuel pin, 4in down pipe 6inch turnout stacks,alot of pump work, bully dog boost and pryo pillar gauges,pods,sb ofe

[JNDcumminscowboy]

well im planing on putting a goose neck hich in so I can pull a cattle trailer and some tmes a flat bed 20' but most of the time im just driving around and smoging people out LoL

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[Orangeracer]

if you pull then get a big turbo small housing and clean injectors so you dont get to high egt. like DDps or something that is clean.

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[1bad93]

a set of 370s and a hx 40 or s300 would make a good hauling/play set up i think, or just get any injector and hook up a valet switch for when you tow

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[1stgenjake]

the smoke is all up your right foot anyway, you can keep them from smoking if you want. if you don't want to spend alot get PODs. I'm making over 400rwhp, and getting 19mpg with my PODs...yea i do get 16 mpg when im playing alot. so yes they are smokey, i can stop traffic and make them wait for the next red light, but when road rage or goofing off isn't a factor PODs are not out of control smokers

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[peobryant]

Originally Posted by 1stgenjake

the smoke is all up your right foot anyway, you can keep them from smoking if you want. if you don't want to spend alot get PODs. I'm making over 400rwhp, and getting 19mpg with my PODs...yea i do get 16 mpg when im playing alot. so yes they are smokey, i can stop traffic and make them wait for the next red light, but when road rage or goofing off isn't a factor PODs are not out of control smokers

If you plan on hauling or towing anything, then yes, POD's are out of control smokers.

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Brothers: '97 2500, 12 Valve, 4wd, 5spd, 716rwhp, 1200+rwtq, Single turbo, Fuel only