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Old 05-01-2009, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Injector Tip size reference chart(found on an internet site site)

Found this surfing, thought it was pretty cool.

Via Chuck @ NewEradiesel.com 740-819-0457

stock 1st gen inj - 6x.009" = .000380" total cross sectional area

2nd gen 215 tips - 4x010 = .000314(17% smaller than stock)

non ic inj - 4x12 = .000452 (19% larger than ic inj)

185's = smaller than stock

190's = smaller than stock

230's = ?

300's = ?

ddp stg III = 50 LPM (liter per minute) 5 hole extrude hone inj

330's - 5x11 = .000474 (20% larger than stock)

2nd gen 370's - 5x12 = .000565 (48% larger than stock)

ddp stg IV = 55 LPM (only 10% larger than stg III's) 5 holes <.013

pods - 4x14 = .000615 (62% larger than stock)

2nd gen 435's - 5x014 = .000769 (twice as large as stock)


custom injectors -

6x13 = .000795

5x15 = .000882

6x14 = .000923

5x16 = .001005

6x15 = .001059

5x17 = .001134 (300% larger than stock)

6x16 = .001206

5x18 = .001272

6x17 = .001360

5x19 = .001416

6x18 = .001526 (400% larger than stock)

5x20 = .001570 (josh ayers custom p-pump inj)

6x20 = .001884 (500% larger than stock)

5x22 = .001900

5x24 = .002261

6x22 = .002280 (600% larger than stock)
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is some good info there! New Era used to be a sponsor on this site and I also have a set of the 435's installed in my truck right now.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yep, thats over on 1stgen.org.

Very useful information.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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2nd gen 215 are 5x .0105, marine 300s are 4x.012
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah New Era is over on Diesel Bombers now. Them and Coaltrain Diesel, I'm running soem coaltrain 6x016's and couldn;t be happier!
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what would 100% over stock injectors be, and what kind of horsepower add do yall think that is?
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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maybe we should start stating how much added actual RWHP these injectors are so if anyones got # put them up
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i haven't had good experience with coaltrain or new era. i finally quit waiting around on them to return my phone calls and 4 messages left and never hearing a word back from them. i won't be recommending them to anyone in the future. no offense to anyone who has had good luck with them. if you've had good luck and experience with either of them, then right on! i'm having my stock 4x.012's built to 4x.014's which will be better than POD's cuz they'll have the proper spray angle AND they'll flow about the same as 370's (5x.012's).
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As far as guessing on RWHP it's a crap shot. Injector tip size/pattern doesn't directly correlate to HP, it's just increased fuel. If you have the air to burn it, you've got HP. If not, you've got smoke. Buying injectors by HP is somewhat pointless. Look for increased flow over stock, tailor your air to meet your goals.
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that's exactly what i was looking for. i'm not impressed by what HP increase some companies "claim" you'll make. it depends on your application and your setup. the 4x.014's (not POD's) i'm getting will flow more than my stock injectors. it may not be much more than stock, but still an increase.
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didnt rust bucket in diesel power have the 300% bigger injectors?
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jqmile (owner of project rust bucket) is running 6x.016's. makes them a little more than 300% larger than stock.
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