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Cummins Nut
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Injector Tip size reference chart(found on an internet site site)
Found this surfing, thought it was pretty cool. Via Chuck @ NewEradiesel.com 740-819-0457 stock 1st gen inj - 6x.009" = .000380" total cross sectional area 2nd gen 215 tips - 4x010 = .000314(17% smaller than stock) non ic inj - 4x12 = .000452 (19% larger than ic inj) 185's = smaller than stock 190's = smaller than stock 230's = ? 300's = ? ddp stg III = 50 LPM (liter per minute) 5 hole extrude hone inj 330's - 5x11 = .000474 (20% larger than stock) 2nd gen 370's - 5x12 = .000565 (48% larger than stock) ddp stg IV = 55 LPM (only 10% larger than stg III's) 5 holes <.013 pods - 4x14 = .000615 (62% larger than stock) 2nd gen 435's - 5x014 = .000769 (twice as large as stock) custom injectors - 6x13 = .000795 5x15 = .000882 6x14 = .000923 5x16 = .001005 6x15 = .001059 5x17 = .001134 (300% larger than stock) 6x16 = .001206 5x18 = .001272 6x17 = .001360 5x19 = .001416 6x18 = .001526 (400% larger than stock) 5x20 = .001570 (josh ayers custom p-pump inj) 6x20 = .001884 (500% larger than stock) 5x22 = .001900 5x24 = .002261 6x22 = .002280 (600% larger than stock)
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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns! |
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There is some good info there! New Era used to be a sponsor on this site and I also have a set of the 435's installed in my truck right now.
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Stan 93 D250, PDR Twins HX35&HT3B, 60+# boost,PDR stage 2 head w/o-rings, PDR Cam, modified VE Pump, piston style lift pump, modified 5" intake w/AFE, ATS ported manifold,DTT 89% converter, 4" RIP exhaust, modified tranny, EGT/boost/tranny/tach gauges, TPS removed, a little chrome under the hood. Mag-Hitec tranny and diff. covers. Rear sway bar. Line-x bed liner, after market seats. Front end rebuilt with new springs - 2 " taller now. Single stage Water/Meth system installed. Oversized intercooler w/3" IC lines. 05 Chevy 2500 HD, Duramax W/Allison, 17" Hummer wheels w/285-70-17 BFG's, modified air box, ported turbo mouthpiece. Predator programmer. |
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Diesel Freak
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Yep, thats over on 1stgen.org. Very useful information.
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'91.5 D350, 2wd Dually, 4" Straight Pipe, 366 Spring, DennyT Stage II Fuel Pin, Isspro Boost, Pyro, Tranny and Fuel Pressure Gauges Brothers: '97 2500, 12 Valve, 4wd, 5spd, 716rwhp, 1200+rwtq, Single turbo, Fuel only |
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what would 100% over stock injectors be, and what kind of horsepower add do yall think that is?
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06 Dodge Auto QCSB 4x4 short bed, 3.73, Superchip w/ Edge, silencer ring removed, K and N intake, Intake Manifold, 2" leveling kit, and rhino bed liner 1993 Dodge Cummins Project truck :pump mods, 100% over injectors, looking at twins |
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maybe we should start stating how much added actual RWHP these injectors are so if anyones got # put them up
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Wats the fastest tdi out there cause im gunna be faster than it ive had enough bad luck with trucks for a while Sienna Diesel Power |
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Cummins Enthusiast
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i haven't had good experience with coaltrain or new era. i finally quit waiting around on them to return my phone calls and 4 messages left and never hearing a word back from them. i won't be recommending them to anyone in the future. no offense to anyone who has had good luck with them. if you've had good luck and experience with either of them, then right on! i'm having my stock 4x.012's built to 4x.014's which will be better than POD's cuz they'll have the proper spray angle AND they'll flow about the same as 370's (5x.012's).
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- '90 D350 LE Cab & Chassis -
custom 9' bed - nv5600 - d70 3.54 posi - banks (?) intercooler - 4" turbo back - 4x.014's - piston LP - autometer tach - vdo boost - ultralite II pyro - 500K+ miles |
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Cummins Nut
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As far as guessing on RWHP it's a crap shot. Injector tip size/pattern doesn't directly correlate to HP, it's just increased fuel. If you have the air to burn it, you've got HP. If not, you've got smoke. Buying injectors by HP is somewhat pointless. Look for increased flow over stock, tailor your air to meet your goals.
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92' W250, rhino liner bed+cab. Pump bombed: timing 18*, AFC out, #366 spring, POD's, #60 exh springs, 2ndGen piston pump (@18psi), BHAF, HX35/40 (60/60/12), 4" turbo back 6" stack, full gauges, Banks engine brake, onboard air, train horns! |
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that's exactly what i was looking for. i'm not impressed by what HP increase some companies "claim" you'll make. it depends on your application and your setup. the 4x.014's (not POD's) i'm getting will flow more than my stock injectors. it may not be much more than stock, but still an increase.
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- '90 D350 LE Cab & Chassis -
custom 9' bed - nv5600 - d70 3.54 posi - banks (?) intercooler - 4" turbo back - 4x.014's - piston LP - autometer tach - vdo boost - ultralite II pyro - 500K+ miles |
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didnt rust bucket in diesel power have the 300% bigger injectors?
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jqmile (owner of project rust bucket) is running 6x.016's. makes them a little more than 300% larger than stock.
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- '90 D350 LE Cab & Chassis -
custom 9' bed - nv5600 - d70 3.54 posi - banks (?) intercooler - 4" turbo back - 4x.014's - piston LP - autometer tach - vdo boost - ultralite II pyro - 500K+ miles |
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