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Old 08-03-2011, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1 ton, first gen... legal towing capacity..?

Please help!
I need to know how much I can LEGALLY tow... (truck and trailer combined ie cgvw)

Also if you know gvwr that would be great to know also.

This is for a 89 d350, 727 auto, 3.07 rear, The truck does not have stickers on the door jamb or under hood, and I can't find this online. It is a dually.


Should (I'm guessing here) probably be the same as all d350 trucks with the 727 auto 89-91 (non intercooled), even info for 91-93 d350 trucks would help...

I just put a flatbed on it, I tow trailers in CA (not camp trailers) with a full load in the bed already, and 1 tons with a flatbed have to stop for the scales in CA, I have even been chased down and told to go back and weigh several times ... I know this may not be a huge concern (legal weight) elsewhere but it is here!

Thanks so much!
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I see you are a new member - welcome to the site!

I live in CA also and I know a company that has a half ton ford pickup with a utility bed on it that got a ticket for not entering the scales. The road gestapo out here said since it had a utility bed it had to stop at the scales. Real POS laws we have out here.

My 93 D250 has a max combined weight rating of something like 12,500#. With my 7500# travel trailer I was grossing about 13,500 loaded for a trip but luckily I never had to pull into the scales. I'm guessing the 1 tons are in the 16-17000# range. Someone that has one will chime in here I'm sure.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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my 92 manual says 12k gross combined for anything with an automatic.
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I seem to remember reading 12k for auto and 16k for manual,
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My 93 D250 has a max combined weight rating of something like 12,500#.
Wow!!! Didn't know it was that low! My truck weighs in at 6,800 lbs, and my trailer is 6,010...EMPTY! That's 13,000 lbs empty weight with me in the driver's seat.

I haul dad's tractor (~ 10k) pretty easily that puts me at 23k gross. I've hauled firewood that has pushed me over 30k gross, but that really felt like too much weight for the mods I have.

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well if you have a 5-speed with 3.55's its 16000 and 17000 with 4.10s. i dont think they had much faith in the slush boxes.
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well if you have a 5-speed with 3.55's its 16000 and 17000 with 4.10s. i dont think they had much faith in the slush boxes.
I have read the slush boxes can handle it, its getting rid of the heat. True or not, no idea.
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Wow!!! Didn't know it was that low! My truck weighs in at 6,800 lbs, and my trailer is 6,010...EMPTY! That's 13,000 lbs empty weight with me in the driver's seat.

I haul dad's tractor (~ 10k) pretty easily that puts me at 23k gross. I've hauled firewood that has pushed me over 30k gross, but that really felt like too much weight for the mods I have.

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i think your safe here in east tn. i've never been pulled over for anything having to do with weight, nor have i heard of anyone else. i actually seen a ford ranger with a 2 5/16" ball, and the guy said he used it to pull everything.

they've got some screwey laws out there in californa. thats bs that you have to weigh at the scales just because you have a flatbed or utility bed. what has the west coast came to?
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OK so I am still looking for this elusive cgvw number! Thanks for all the help and input thus far guys!

I find it hard to believe that it would be only 13,000. That could make sense for the d250...but (I just went out and checked to confirm this) on the door jamb my truck DOES say "models with gvwr over 10,000 lbs" and gvwr 11,000, but it is well worn and I can't read the 11,000 for certain, I am pretty sure about this though. I find it hard to believe the truck fully loaded is only rated for a 2,000 lb trailer!

Is there anyone (DMV., scales, dodge dealer) I can call with the vin and ask them for this info?

Thank you very much!
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i just towed 21000, cross country, from california to florida, never stopped, never ever had an issue towing in california for years.... seems weird to have a dually to have a 12000 cap... doesnt seem right..
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California law

I haul in california and ill make it easy to understand. Say your truck has a 11,000# gvw and you have a trailer with a gvw of 18,000# your total loaded weight cannot be over 29,000#. Your axle weight cant be over the capacity described by the manufacture. Now if your trailer is over 10,000# you need a class a license. And if you have a rental Box truck or dump truck and a trailer that the combined gvw of both truck and trailer is over 26k empty you also need a class a. Hopefully this helps. Now if you have a pickup bed on your truck you dont have to stop and you dont have to deal with DOT at all unless they pull you over for a random inspection. Also for a truck without a pickup bed you must have your declared weight stickers on the door and you cannot exceed that weight no matter what. If you have anymore questions you can give me a call at. 530 seven nine zero 5977. Hope this answers your questions.
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