Another Stock Clutch Gone!

T.Young · 10-18-2009, 10:31 PM

My truck is completley stock, and the clutch is gone with 22k on it. I can mash on it in 6th gear and it will slip about every time. I called the dealer and thay said they would warranty it to 36k. My question is the replacement clutch the same junk they come with or have they realized there is a problem with a clutch that won't last 30k miles , and upgraded them. I doubt it but just wondering.

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Bright Silver. Bone Stock

atlas59 · 10-19-2009, 09:25 AM

it's the same junk...my 05 had a similar clutch as our newer trucks and it was junk at about 40k my 07 is ready for a clutch at 40k....if you dont have the funds to put in a regular style clutch or a dd I would go ahead and let them fix it under warranty........

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Nickrg4 · 10-19-2009, 03:56 PM

time to call Valair for you buddy. i got a valair DD, its awesome

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SteveBallard · 10-28-2009, 12:56 PM

Not to knock southbend or anyone else I dod away with all the stock junk and went with a Kentuck clutch it was only 625.00 for the whole set up including the new flywheel thanks to dodge the throw out bearing went out on me in two months and dodge would not warrenty it since they did not install it. Now im having the replace my sixth gear and bearings around the main shaft. Do not ever go back stock on these trucks the only thing I trust in these trucks are the Cummins Engine. Trust me I have had my truck for a year now and have had nothing but problems with Dodge wanting to repalce anything on that it there fault. I already have over 100k miles on my truck, thanks to dodge and the stock clutch I was stuck in delware for a week

Sandaholic · 10-28-2009, 12:59 PM

After the rebuild did you hear any reasons as to why your G56 lost 6th?

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05' QCLB 4x4 NV5600,Spec DD clutch,S-06,5" TBE 6" aussie, airdog 150,modded fuel can.,CAI, techni-cooler,mag hytec rear diff. cover,6" lift on truck and fifthwheel,firestone airbags,16gal. of 200 PSI OBA 421HP/1009TQ moves 8000lbs to a 13.88@97.05 SSW

SteveBallard · 10-28-2009, 01:33 PM

They say it was probly too much of a load in sixth gear but it is quite funny that i only have had this issue after the bearing went out from the throw out bearing

evan4434 · 10-28-2009, 01:35 PM

$625 for a new clutch????

Did you need to get new hydro's too?

How much hp and torque will they hold?

Anyone else tried KENTUCKY CLUTCH -Automotive, Truck & Farm Equipment CLUTCHES too?

That is a heck of a lot more in my price range.

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jpringle3@hotmail.com · 10-28-2009, 02:04 PM

I have found that the hardest thing on a clutch is the driver, not every time but most, Starting out in to high of a gear, slipping the clutch, driving with your foot above the pedal, every time you hit a bump, slipping the clutch. Waiting with the clutch pedal in for a long time will wear out the pilot bearing, But most pilot bearings fail because of improper installation, and that will take out the input bearing in the transmission, along with the clutch hub. Steve Ballard, if you lost the bearings I would be sure you get the transmission repaired at a place that is going to check the run out of the transmission bell housing to the engine. If it is out of spec it will tear out the bearing again, and a lot more if the other parts have been stressed already.

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worked on engines all my life. Spent last 19 HAPPY years at Freightliner:

mastercaster · 10-28-2009, 09:17 PM

same junk! get an aftermarket Valair or Southbend.

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2007.5 3500SLT, Mega Cab, DRW, 4x4, 6.7l g56, entire exhaust fell off

had to replace with 5"ss turbo back, oh yeah, the egr/egr cooler went missing too

. S&B cai. edge w/ attitude HOT. Valair's new 12.25 DD w/ HD Hydraulics. sure runs good now!

evan4434 · 10-28-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastercaster

same junk! get an aftermarket Valair or Southbend.

Same flywheel and clutch???

I have found that the biggest issue with our stock clutch setup is the DMF.

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2008 6.7, SXT, 4X4, Long Box, 6 spd manual, H&S 4" Stage II DPF Delete, EGR Delete, and XRT 60HP tune.

parkers30 · 10-28-2009, 10:06 PM

My stocker is almost to 75k and has tons left in it, other than trying to hold big tunes.

This is my first stick and I'm not the first owner, but I have taken some advice from some big rig drivers: one pedal at a time. A diesel has plenty of torque to get the truck rolling without giving it throttle.

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'06 QCSB 4x4 G56 3.73, BFG AT, PMT, Quadzilla BF, Isspro EV2 Boost and Fuel Press, FTE Resonator, center console swapped, SB 3600DD. 76k

parkers30 · 10-28-2009, 10:14 PM

Not saying they aren't crappy, I have a SB3600 sitting in the garage waiting to go in, but wow... you guys are hard on clutches!

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'06 QCSB 4x4 G56 3.73, BFG AT, PMT, Quadzilla BF, Isspro EV2 Boost and Fuel Press, FTE Resonator, center console swapped, SB 3600DD. 76k

10-18-2009, 10:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
T.Young Cummins Fan Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mountains of NC Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts T.Young's Truck Pics	Another Stock Clutch Gone! My truck is completley stock, and the clutch is gone with 22k on it. I can mash on it in 6th gear and it will slip about every time. I called the dealer and thay said they would warranty it to 36k. My question is the replacement clutch the same junk they come with or have they realized there is a problem with a clutch that won't last 30k miles , and upgraded them. I doubt it but just wondering. __________________ 07.5 3500 quad cab 4x4, 6.7 G56 Bright Silver. Bone Stock

10-28-2009, 09:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
mastercaster Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leander, TX Posts: 645 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts mastercaster's Truck Pics	same junk! get an aftermarket Valair or Southbend. __________________ 2007.5 3500SLT, Mega Cab, DRW, 4x4, 6.7l g56, entire exhaust fell off had to replace with 5"ss turbo back, oh yeah, the egr/egr cooler went missing too. S&B cai. edge w/ attitude HOT. Valair's new 12.25 DD w/ HD Hydraulics. sure runs good now!

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10-19-2009, 09:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
atlas59 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts atlas59's Truck Pics	it's the same junk...my 05 had a similar clutch as our newer trucks and it was junk at about 40k my 07 is ready for a clutch at 40k....if you dont have the funds to put in a regular style clutch or a dd I would go ahead and let them fix it under warranty........ __________________ 2007 Mega Cab 3500 dually 4x4, 6spd, 3.73, afe mega cannon, 5in tbe, egr delete, egr cooler delete, isspro ev2 gauges, Smarty ME

10-19-2009, 03:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nickrg4 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Huntsville,Texas Posts: 210 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Nickrg4's Truck Pics	time to call Valair for you buddy. i got a valair DD, its awesome __________________ 08 6.7 Dually 4x4,Recon smoked LED's,6000K HID's,4-5" H&S TBE,EGR unplug,Quadzilla bf,Valair DD,Silencer ring gone,AFE Dry,T3 replacements, 0% tint,homemade nerf bars

10-28-2009, 12:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
SteveBallard Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SteveBallard's Truck Pics	Not to knock southbend or anyone else I dod away with all the stock junk and went with a Kentuck clutch it was only 625.00 for the whole set up including the new flywheel thanks to dodge the throw out bearing went out on me in two months and dodge would not warrenty it since they did not install it. Now im having the replace my sixth gear and bearings around the main shaft. Do not ever go back stock on these trucks the only thing I trust in these trucks are the Cummins Engine. Trust me I have had my truck for a year now and have had nothing but problems with Dodge wanting to repalce anything on that it there fault. I already have over 100k miles on my truck, thanks to dodge and the stock clutch I was stuck in delware for a week

10-28-2009, 12:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sandaholic Diesel Head Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 1,524 Thanks: 18 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts Sandaholic's Truck Pics	After the rebuild did you hear any reasons as to why your G56 lost 6th? __________________ 05' QCLB 4x4 NV5600,Spec DD clutch,S-06,5" TBE 6" aussie, airdog 150,modded fuel can.,CAI, techni-cooler,mag hytec rear diff. cover,6" lift on truck and fifthwheel,firestone airbags,16gal. of 200 PSI OBA 421HP/1009TQ moves 8000lbs to a 13.88@97.05 *SSW*

10-28-2009, 01:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
SteveBallard Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SteveBallard's Truck Pics	They say it was probly too much of a load in sixth gear but it is quite funny that i only have had this issue after the bearing went out from the throw out bearing

10-28-2009, 01:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
evan4434 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 296 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts evan4434's Truck Pics	$625 for a new clutch???? Did you need to get new hydro's too? How much hp and torque will they hold? Anyone else tried KENTUCKY CLUTCH -Automotive, Truck & Farm Equipment CLUTCHES too? That is a heck of a lot more in my price range. __________________ 2008 6.7, SXT, 4X4, Long Box, 6 spd manual, H&S 4" Stage II DPF Delete, EGR Delete, and XRT 60HP tune.

10-28-2009, 02:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
jpringle3@hotmail.com Diesel Freak Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 702 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts jpringle3@hotmail.com's Truck Pics	I have found that the hardest thing on a clutch is the driver, not every time but most, Starting out in to high of a gear, slipping the clutch, driving with your foot above the pedal, every time you hit a bump, slipping the clutch. Waiting with the clutch pedal in for a long time will wear out the pilot bearing, But most pilot bearings fail because of improper installation, and that will take out the input bearing in the transmission, along with the clutch hub. Steve Ballard, if you lost the bearings I would be sure you get the transmission repaired at a place that is going to check the run out of the transmission bell housing to the engine. If it is out of spec it will tear out the bearing again, and a lot more if the other parts have been stressed already. __________________ JP 3 :Licenced HD mechanic for 35 years. RETIRED! worked on engines all my life. Spent last 19 HAPPY years at Freightliner:

10-28-2009, 10:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
parkers30 Cummins Nut Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 499 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts parkers30's Truck Pics	My stocker is almost to 75k and has tons left in it, other than trying to hold big tunes. This is my first stick and I'm not the first owner, but I have taken some advice from some big rig drivers: one pedal at a time. A diesel has plenty of torque to get the truck rolling without giving it throttle. __________________ '06 QCSB 4x4 G56 3.73, BFG AT, PMT, Quadzilla BF, Isspro EV2 Boost and Fuel Press, FTE Resonator, center console swapped, SB 3600DD. 76k

10-28-2009, 10:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
parkers30 Cummins Nut Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 499 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts parkers30's Truck Pics	Not saying they aren't crappy, I have a SB3600 sitting in the garage waiting to go in, but wow... you guys are hard on clutches! __________________ '06 QCSB 4x4 G56 3.73, BFG AT, PMT, Quadzilla BF, Isspro EV2 Boost and Fuel Press, FTE Resonator, center console swapped, SB 3600DD. 76k