64/14/71 as a Single and in Twins

***mattpopp*** · 11-18-2009, 01:50 PM

A 64/14/71 will run great on the 6.7 as a single. But my question is if you use it in a compound setup with a S480 will it react differently. Or will the 64 spool just as it does as a single. Assuming all of this is with the stock fuel system except for the lift pump. I know you wont see the full benefit from the S480 unless you have the injectors and CP3 to push enough fuel. But it should still pretty darn good a truck with stock CP3 and Injectors, right?

Because this is the route that I am thinking about when I have the money. Because what every I do I want the VGT to end up in the garbage. I do not want that sucker on my truck at all. I am un decided if I will ever upgread the fuel system but if I do I want to already have enough turbo to do it. I don't like buying stuff twice.

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Alabama Mud Machine · 11-18-2009, 02:19 PM

I was wondering the same thing....

Except i was wondering about the II Silver Bullet 66/14/74 for a single right now, then topping with S-480...

I also don't like buying stuff twice.......LOL

So, since I'm pretty sure I don't have a blown HG, I am going with ARP 625's just to be safe & adding 120hp nozzles. Then trying to decide on doing an EWG or just saving and going with II SB66 then getting Buck to build me a twins setup with an S480 later on down the road...

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railin 6.7 · 11-18-2009, 04:54 PM

theres a company thats doing something similar i believe... read their words...

2007.5 - 2009 Dodge 6.7L Cummins Twin Turbo Kit: Source Automotive Performance Diesel

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***Cummins6speed*** · 11-18-2009, 04:57 PM

that would be a nice compound setup

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***Shibbyutman*** · 11-18-2009, 08:22 PM

the spool time should be about the same, maybe a little quicker. It isn't going to get as high of a delta P across the turbine housing so that will slow it down some, but it is going to be getting air forced into it by the biggen below it which will make up for the loss from the turbine side.

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***Compcowboy*** · 11-18-2009, 11:33 PM

I am running a 64/71/14 over the top of my S400. It works great. I would guess it would take a little more to spool the S480 but if you add the fuel and supporting mods it should be a great setup. I would like to jump to a 475 or 480 on the bottom at some point.

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Alabama Mud Machine · 11-18-2009, 11:56 PM

Hey Chris...Do you think a 66/14/74 would be too much for a top turbo spoiling up n S-480?

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Craig@MPD · 11-19-2009, 12:17 AM

With a silver 66 the s480 would be begging for fuel

Alabama Mud Machine · 11-19-2009, 08:40 AM

Okay....what if I went with 160+hp nozzles.......

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***Shibbyutman*** · 11-19-2009, 09:31 AM

Now you're talkin, though that boost level would be boarding on what Browns said fire rings would be in order. Eric said for daily driving the 64-66 is pretty ideal for a top charger, and depending on how big you want to go a 480 or a 480 race cover. I talked with him and he said the 66 could support up to about a 595 on the bottom, which is the setup I'm planning as soon as I can unload my 03 truck.

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Alabama Mud Machine · 11-19-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibbyutman

Now you're talkin, though that boost level would be boarding on what Browns said fire rings would be in order. Eric said for daily driving the 64-66 is pretty ideal for a top charger, and depending on how big you want to go a 480 or a 480 race cover. I talked with him and he said the 66 could support up to about a 595 on the bottom, which is the setup I'm planning as soon as I can unload my 03 truck.

HOLY $H*T!!! That's a HUGE snail!

So, would I be better to get a 64 or 66 for now and running say....120hp injectors?

Also, will a stock turbo & cP3 handle 120's? Or is 90 about the biggest you want to go for stock turbo? What if I have it wastegated to relieve excess DP....Then can I run 120's?

If so, what would be the best sizes for everything? 66/14/74??? What do yall think?

Sorry for all the questions...but I'm just curious as to what I can do for now that won't cost me an arm and a leg.....LOL

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MEZ · 11-19-2009, 10:09 AM

im going with a 66, 90 or so horse nozzels, stage 3 cp3, and studs. and then just upgrade to twins is ever want them... just as soon as a butt load of money gets here haha

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*mattpopp* Can Chuck get a AMEN Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spring Branch Texas Posts: 4,729 Thanks: 52 Thanked 271 Times in 172 Posts mattpopp's Truck Pics	64/14/71 as a Single and in Twins A 64/14/71 will run great on the 6.7 as a single. But my question is if you use it in a compound setup with a S480 will it react differently. Or will the 64 spool just as it does as a single. Assuming all of this is with the stock fuel system except for the lift pump. I know you wont see the full benefit from the S480 unless you have the injectors and CP3 to push enough fuel. But it should still pretty darn good a truck with stock CP3 and Injectors, right? Because this is the route that I am thinking about when I have the money. Because what every I do I want the VGT to end up in the garbage. I do not want that sucker on my truck at all. I am un decided if I will ever upgread the fuel system but if I do I want to already have enough turbo to do it. I don't like buying stuff twice. __________________ 07 l 6.7 l .75 ton l MC lwith a leaky CP3 and a Turbo on order 96 l 5.9 l .75 ton l EC l with not much on it Keep America Armed, Support NAGR

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11-18-2009, 02:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Alabama Mud Machine Diesel Head Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 3,543 Thanks: 149 Thanked 117 Times in 98 Posts Alabama Mud Machine's Truck Pics	I was wondering the same thing.... Except i was wondering about the II Silver Bullet 66/14/74 for a single right now, then topping with S-480... I also don't like buying stuff twice.......LOL So, since I'm pretty sure I don't have a blown HG, I am going with ARP 625's just to be safe & adding 120hp nozzles. Then trying to decide on doing an EWG or just saving and going with II SB66 then getting Buck to build me a twins setup with an S480 later on down the road... __________________ 2007.5 RAM 2500 4x4, 6.7L / 68RFE - 6" Fabtech, 38" Mud-Grapplers, 20" Helo's, N-Fab steps, SMARTY, 5" TBE, AFE Mega-Cannon, Isspro EV2's, BOD Intake Horn. Rollin Smoke Diesel - www.rollinsmokediesel.com

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*Cummins6speed* Cummins Crazy Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Petaluma, CA Posts: 5,606 Thanks: 103 Thanked 147 Times in 116 Posts Cummins6speed's Truck Pics	that would be a nice compound setup __________________ My truck: 06 5.9 G56 4x4 Quad Cab Short Bed Patriot Blue. Smarty TNT, Valair 3600DD, DiPricol's, Home made intake w/ amsoil filter, Straight Piped w/ 7" tip, silencer ring MIA, glove box sticker MIA 2/28/09-470hp/980tq FOR SALE: PM ME "Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmasist'"

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*Shibbyutman* Rail Drainer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Superior Township, Michigan Posts: 5,005 Thanks: 0 Thanked 281 Times in 210 Posts Shibbyutman's Truck Pics	the spool time should be about the same, maybe a little quicker. It isn't going to get as high of a delta P across the turbine housing so that will slow it down some, but it is going to be getting air forced into it by the biggen below it which will make up for the loss from the turbine side. __________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4, PDR Cobra Stage 2 Twins, BD Power 90's, Studs, Springs, Autometers, Dual 7" Black Stacks/rain caps, Banks intercooler, Goerend Full Built Trans, Smarty set to Kill, MP-8, Full DIY CP3 Mod, Rail capped, FASS 150/150, and big line kit.

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*Compcowboy* Washington Chapter Vice President Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kennewick, Wa Posts: 4,987 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts Compcowboy's Truck Pics	I am running a 64/71/14 over the top of my S400. It works great. I would guess it would take a little more to spool the S480 but if you add the fuel and supporting mods it should be a great setup. I would like to jump to a 475 or 480 on the bottom at some point. __________________ 691 Hp 1200+ Tq - 2007 6.7 TWIN TURBO DUAL CP3 2500 Bighorn 4x4 6-spd Manual, 64/71/14 over a S400, Airdog 150, ARP Head Studs, TS MP-8, Airbags with Dual Control Air Comp., H&S Delete & Downpipe, What EGR?, Valair Dual Disk, Amsoil Bmk-11 Bypass, 295/70/R17 Toyos on Walker Evans Wheels,6" Aussies & Hushpower Muffler & DiProcol Gauges & 120HP nozzles (Installed!) Thanks to Wally At FTEDiesel!!!!! PMT is gone, Smarty is Gone!, H&S TO THE RESCUE! Black Maxx on the way.

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Alabama Mud Machine Diesel Head Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 3,543 Thanks: 149 Thanked 117 Times in 98 Posts Alabama Mud Machine's Truck Pics	Hey Chris...Do you think a 66/14/74 would be too much for a top turbo spoiling up n S-480? __________________ 2007.5 RAM 2500 4x4, 6.7L / 68RFE - 6" Fabtech, 38" Mud-Grapplers, 20" Helo's, N-Fab steps, SMARTY, 5" TBE, AFE Mega-Cannon, Isspro EV2's, BOD Intake Horn. Rollin Smoke Diesel - www.rollinsmokediesel.com

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Craig@MPD MarylandPerformanceDiesel Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 418 Thanks: 38 Thanked 34 Times in 25 Posts Craig@MPD's Truck Pics	With a silver 66 the s480 would be begging for fuel

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Alabama Mud Machine Diesel Head Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 3,543 Thanks: 149 Thanked 117 Times in 98 Posts Alabama Mud Machine's Truck Pics	Okay....what if I went with 160+hp nozzles....... __________________ 2007.5 RAM 2500 4x4, 6.7L / 68RFE - 6" Fabtech, 38" Mud-Grapplers, 20" Helo's, N-Fab steps, SMARTY, 5" TBE, AFE Mega-Cannon, Isspro EV2's, BOD Intake Horn. Rollin Smoke Diesel - www.rollinsmokediesel.com

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*Shibbyutman* Rail Drainer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Superior Township, Michigan Posts: 5,005 Thanks: 0 Thanked 281 Times in 210 Posts Shibbyutman's Truck Pics	Now you're talkin, though that boost level would be boarding on what Browns said fire rings would be in order. Eric said for daily driving the 64-66 is pretty ideal for a top charger, and depending on how big you want to go a 480 or a 480 race cover. I talked with him and he said the 66 could support up to about a 595 on the bottom, which is the setup I'm planning as soon as I can unload my 03 truck. __________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4, PDR Cobra Stage 2 Twins, BD Power 90's, Studs, Springs, Autometers, Dual 7" Black Stacks/rain caps, Banks intercooler, Goerend Full Built Trans, Smarty set to Kill, MP-8, Full DIY CP3 Mod, Rail capped, FASS 150/150, and big line kit.

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MEZ Diesel Freak Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lampasas/College Station- Texas Posts: 727 Thanks: 10 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts MEZ's Truck Pics	im going with a 66, 90 or so horse nozzels, stage 3 cp3, and studs. and then just upgrade to twins is ever want them... just as soon as a butt load of money gets here haha __________________ 2007.5 Mega 6.7l 4X4 6 spd., Smarty, PMT, SBC 3250 DD, EGR & Cooler Delete, 5'' Stainless, Smoke Switched, AFE, Leveled, 18" XD Hoss, 33" MT ATZ, Bushwackers, Gator Seats- PMT & Quad. Boost Fooler FOR SALE