Stage II Intake Elbow, Info Wanted

Shibbyutman · 04-27-2009, 08:29 AM

Alright guys, I have the most of the CAD finalized for my Stage II elbow, now I just want some more input from the end users as far as what you'd like to see in it.

My Stage I elbow has provisions just as the stock one does for the harness retainers. Keeping in mind this isn't going to really impact cost of it one way or another, do you guys still want the Harness connectors on it or could they be done away with all together? Maybe just the rear one and not the front? I'm just throwing ideas out there to get the conversation started.

How many boost reference/equipment ports do you really want 2, 3, 4? I know some guys run water/meth with manual boost gauge so that'd be three down right there.... Again just lookin for input, tryin' to do this right the first time.

As far as a time table goes If everything goes right I should have some prototypes in my hands for test fitting in 4-5 weeks. So keep your pants on and don't let your panties get in a bunch, things are comin'

Thanks

Shibby Engineering

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, FASS 150/150, and big line kit.

***SkinInc69*** · 04-27-2009, 09:13 AM

I say no harness retaining holes. I broke my retaining clips along time ago on the stick horn. Also I say 4 ports to be safe. JMO

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***Dodgeram082500*** · 04-27-2009, 09:24 AM

Id also say four you never know what we might do

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***Cummins 67*** · 04-27-2009, 09:46 AM

I would like see 3 ports.

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KodiakConstruction · 04-27-2009, 09:58 AM

Kurt,
To make life easy for you I would just machine 4 ports. If the guys need less they can just plug it. Better then having to machine 2 or 3 different ones and the only difference be the amount of ports on the intake.

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Shibbyutman · 04-27-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgeram082500

Id also say for you never know what we might do

I know, but I am trying to anticipate, I don't want to follow in the footsteps of all the big box guys like Banks or CFM that just say here you go and you're stuck with whatever they've provided. I figure If I get a few opinions first I can have a product that works for just about everyone.

Kodiak, I totally agree with that point, a 52 cent plug costs less than having to keep two different configurations in inventory.

Anyone else have an opinion about the harness retainers?

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, FASS 150/150, and big line kit.

***milo12*** · 04-27-2009, 11:03 AM

I vote to keep the harness connectors. If they are gone then you end up with zip ties everywhere.

I think provide 2 drilled and tapped holes is fine. But cast it with bosses for 4 holes. Anyone can drill and tap their own hole if the boss is there.

Can't wait. Do you have an estimate at what power level the stage 2 would be a benefit?

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**Rollin Smoke Diesel** · 04-27-2009, 11:39 AM

Go with two pre tapped ports but like milo said have at least a total of four. That would make it more convient for guys running water/meth systems.

James
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cumminser · 04-27-2009, 12:22 PM

2 ports, 2 bosses, No Hareness retainers

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***SkinInc69*** · 04-27-2009, 12:28 PM

I still say 4 ports since all 4 of mine are used. You would need more if you had NOS.

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Looped82 · 04-27-2009, 04:15 PM

4 ports and harness retainers! and a pic would be nice?

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blacksmoke6.7 · 04-27-2009, 04:21 PM

i would go for six ports, that would gaurentee you a sale to me.

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Shibbyutman Diesel Head Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Superior Township, Michigan Posts: 4,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 170 Times in 120 Posts Shibbyutman's Truck Pics	Stage II Intake Elbow, Info Wanted Alright guys, I have the most of the CAD finalized for my Stage II elbow, now I just want some more input from the end users as far as what you'd like to see in it. My Stage I elbow has provisions just as the stock one does for the harness retainers. Keeping in mind this isn't going to really impact cost of it one way or another, do you guys still want the Harness connectors on it or could they be done away with all together? Maybe just the rear one and not the front? I'm just throwing ideas out there to get the conversation started. How many boost reference/equipment ports do you really want 2, 3, 4? I know some guys run water/meth with manual boost gauge so that'd be three down right there.... Again just lookin for input, tryin' to do this right the first time. As far as a time table goes If everything goes right I should have some prototypes in my hands for test fitting in 4-5 weeks. So keep your pants on and don't let your panties get in a bunch, things are comin' Thanks Shibby Engineering __________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4, PDR Cobra Stage 2 Twins, BD Power 90's, Studs, Springs, Autometers, Dual 7" Black Stacks/rain caps, Banks intercooler, Goerend Full Built Trans, Smarty set to Kill, MP-8, Full DIY CP3 Mod, Rail capped , FASS 150/150, and big line kit.

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*SkinInc69* AUTOBOX TRANSFORM!!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Great White North Posts: 4,939 Thanks: 62 Thanked 116 Times in 83 Posts SkinInc69's Truck Pics	I say no harness retaining holes. I broke my retaining clips along time ago on the stick horn. Also I say 4 ports to be safe. JMO __________________ 2007.5, 6.7L 2500 4x4 LARAMIE 68RFE- H&S Performance BLACK MAXX, Industrial Injection Stage 2 CP3, FASS 150/150, H&S 5" TBE straight piped, Snow Performance water methanol injection, Capped fuel rail, EGR & Cooler delete, AFE Mega Cannon, Black Op's Diesel intake horn, 3.5" Shibby boost tube, DiPricol Gauges, 3" BDS lift, Bushwacker flares, 20x12 iON-Forged Terminators, 33x12.5 Nitto Mud Grapplers, RDX Billet Grill, Line X, 20% Tint w/ 9" brow, 10,000K HID Hi/Low, Fogs. www.hsperformance.com

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*milo12* Diesel Freak Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 895 Thanks: 11 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts milo12's Truck Pics	I vote to keep the harness connectors. If they are gone then you end up with zip ties everywhere. I think provide 2 drilled and tapped holes is fine. But cast it with bosses for 4 holes. Anyone can drill and tap their own hole if the boss is there. Can't wait. Do you have an estimate at what power level the stage 2 would be a benefit? __________________ 2008 Dodge 3500 SRW QC LB 4x4, Auto, 3.73, 6.7L. Lorenz springs. Thuren TB, HID's. All deletes. Smarty. 4040XL. Banks SuperScoop. RockCrusher diff guards. Defiant steering support & stone shield. Goerend TC. WCC intake & boost tube. No grid heater. King 2.5" shocks, Carli CA, Yokohama 37", Flex-a-lite fan, Carli Sway bar, Sulastic shackles, MHP trans tune

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Rollin Smoke Diesel Smoked Ya! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan City, IN Posts: 6,746 Thanks: 271 Thanked 119 Times in 84 Posts Rollin Smoke Diesel's Truck Pics	Go with two pre tapped ports but like milo said have at least a total of four. That would make it more convient for guys running water/meth systems. James RSD __________________ Monday-Friday 9am-5pm CST, online ordering 24/7 Click Here For 6.7L DPF Delete Packages and Tuners! We are your Diesel Performance Store....Honest, Fast and Friendly Service! Authorized H&S Performance, Smarty, AirDog, Grand Rock Stacks, Edge/Superchips, Quadzilla, Isspro, Diablosport, Spartan Tech, Valair Clutches, S&B Filters, Flo Pro and many of the leading names in the industry!

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