Projector and HID Questions

River-Runner · 11-01-2009, 01:57 PM

Hi Folks-

I have HID lights on my daily driver, an Acura CL. The HID setup is just superior to the lights in my truck - a 2008 Ram. I throw a usable light way down the road versus the truck. My high beams on the truck are really a joke - they don't give me an increase in down road visibility.

I have to admit, the HID / Projector threads here add more questions than answers for me most of the time.

Question: Would it not be best to buy HID's within projector headlight replacements? The projector type headlights in the Acura have a very distinct cutoff to help out the people who are meeting me on the road - the cutoff really does not affect my ability to see down the road - but I bet it does really save those meeting me. Based on what I have learned here, if you just put HID's retrofit into your stock headlights, you will be throwing a nasty light towards those on the road with you - right?

I'm in Oregon and we get a lot of rain in the winter with roads that don't have well marked lanes - the lanes are not painted with stripes on the outside and center stripe. As I've rounded the 50-year old corner - I find I need better lights at night, but really do not want to blind those folks on the road with me.

What are the options? Is there a plug & Play setup with both projector type lenses and HID powered lights?

Again, I will read your explanations, so please describe in as much detail as possible what you are explaining. This stuff just isn't intuitive for me. I get the feeling there are a bunch of people making a lot of money off folks like me who don't understand the dynamics of the issue. If you have researched and found the secrets of this issue, I would really appreciate your assistance.

Thanks,

RiverRunner

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***MATTIAC*** · 11-01-2009, 02:34 PM

a lot of projectors do not have the depth to do a HID replacement, but I guess there are some that you can.

from what i underdtand, HID have a shallower cut off then a halogen, but noine the less, you will never outrun your light. they are real bright, and you can choose the color you want via the amount of K you choose. most guys i see do the HID replacement and are more then happy. To do a projector and HID, would cost a lot more, so if money is an issue. When it comes to other motorists, you will not have a light bright enough that it will drive them off the road, as long as you use your courtesy and they do what they are supposed to do, all should be well. I live in a area where there is lots of big wild life on the highway, and feel much more comfortable to have a light that shows me everything, even if it does irritate some motorists. Its my safety, and the safety of my family i am the most concerned with. there are special digital HID kits that our trucks need to run, otherwise you will get a lamp out on your dash, and they might flicker. hope some of this helps, Im sure others will chime in

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River-Runner · 11-01-2009, 03:36 PM

MATTIAC,

Thanks for the reply.

Are you saying that the HID's installed in our stock headlight assembly will have a sharper cutoff than stock such that they will not blind oncoming traffic?

I thought you had to get a projector housing to accomplish getting the light to go only where it is supposed to go. Isn't the goal of projectors to focus the light just and only where you want it?

RiverRunner

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04SSHD · 11-01-2009, 04:18 PM

HID's in the stock housing will produce a lot more usable light than halogens and if properly aimed you won't have problems with blinding on coming traffic. Before I had the ram I had HID's in my BMW and I know what you mean about how much better the light is. I installed the HID Solutions kit in my truck for both headlights and fog lights and haven't looked back since!

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john2669 · 11-01-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04SSHD

HID's in the stock housing will produce a lot more usable light than halogens and if properly aimed you won't have problems with blinding on coming traffic. Before I had the ram I had HID's in my BMW and I know what you mean about how much better the light is. I installed the HID Solutions kit in my truck for both headlights and fog lights and haven't looked back since!

Can you PM me where you got the stuff to do your lights....Thanks in advance

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AF-firfighter89 · 11-01-2009, 06:56 PM

Where can u get these kits? i would b interested also. Stock lights suck.

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***MATTIAC*** · 11-01-2009, 07:04 PM

HID solutions, 04SSHD is a seller or something for them, he can give you a promo code

HID king on Ebay is good, or retro solutions have a kit for the dodge, there is lots of options

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04SSHD · 11-02-2009, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john2669

Can you PM me where you got the stuff to do your lights....Thanks in advance

Quote:

Originally Posted by AF-firfighter89

Where can u get these kits? i would b interested also. Stock lights suck.

Just sent you both a PM, but yes they are from HID Solutions - Xenon Lighting Specialists

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inthenorth6.7 · 11-02-2009, 10:14 AM

MATTIAC;

what light kit do you have? and do they work with you're daytime running lights?

morpower · 11-02-2009, 12:27 PM

I also want the hid lights, my stock ones suck. Question though, I have a toggle switch that changes from truck lights to snow plow lights will this hid option work for me?
I like what hid solutions has to offer. Just would like to know before I order them
Thanks in advance

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04SSHD · 11-02-2009, 05:01 PM

They should work the same.

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WyoMike6.7 · 11-02-2009, 05:11 PM

How difficult is the installation of an HID kit, I have rolled the idea around also, but I got a little disappointed in hearing about the flickering problems and it kind of turned me away from it. I suppose it's all about the kit that you buy, but I have been wondering lately if it was a difficult installation.

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11-01-2009, 01:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
River-Runner Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts River-Runner's Truck Pics	Projector and HID Questions Hi Folks- I have HID lights on my daily driver, an Acura CL. The HID setup is just superior to the lights in my truck - a 2008 Ram. I throw a usable light way down the road versus the truck. My high beams on the truck are really a joke - they don't give me an increase in down road visibility. I have to admit, the HID / Projector threads here add more questions than answers for me most of the time. Question: Would it not be best to buy HID's within projector headlight replacements? The projector type headlights in the Acura have a very distinct cutoff to help out the people who are meeting me on the road - the cutoff really does not affect my ability to see down the road - but I bet it does really save those meeting me. Based on what I have learned here, if you just put HID's retrofit into your stock headlights, you will be throwing a nasty light towards those on the road with you - right? I'm in Oregon and we get a lot of rain in the winter with roads that don't have well marked lanes - the lanes are not painted with stripes on the outside and center stripe. As I've rounded the 50-year old corner - I find I need better lights at night, but really do not want to blind those folks on the road with me. What are the options? Is there a plug & Play setup with both projector type lenses and HID powered lights? Again, I will read your explanations, so please describe in as much detail as possible what you are explaining. This stuff just isn't intuitive for me. I get the feeling there are a bunch of people making a lot of money off folks like me who don't understand the dynamics of the issue. If you have researched and found the secrets of this issue, I would really appreciate your assistance. Thanks, RiverRunner __________________ 2008 White Laramie 4 x 4 2500 Megacab Auto

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11-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
*MATTIAC* Blue Freak! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts MATTIAC's Truck Pics	a lot of projectors do not have the depth to do a HID replacement, but I guess there are some that you can. from what i underdtand, HID have a shallower cut off then a halogen, but noine the less, you will never outrun your light. they are real bright, and you can choose the color you want via the amount of K you choose. most guys i see do the HID replacement and are more then happy. To do a projector and HID, would cost a lot more, so if money is an issue. When it comes to other motorists, you will not have a light bright enough that it will drive them off the road, as long as you use your courtesy and they do what they are supposed to do, all should be well. I live in a area where there is lots of big wild life on the highway, and feel much more comfortable to have a light that shows me everything, even if it does irritate some motorists. Its my safety, and the safety of my family i am the most concerned with. there are special digital HID kits that our trucks need to run, otherwise you will get a lamp out on your dash, and they might flicker. hope some of this helps, Im sure others will chime in __________________ 08 Elect Blue 6.7 Mega. 3500. Sunroof. Leather.VES. 6" BDS Lift. 37x13.50-20 Toyo OC M/T on Eagle 064B wheels. B/W Pocket Flares. ProFlo 5" TBE w/ 6" Tip. H&S Black Maxx. S&B CAI. AMSOIL. Starter/Alarm. 6000k HID HI/LOW & Fogs. Kenwood DNX9140. 2x Pioneer Series Pro Subs Pwrd by a JL 500/1 v2. Autometer Triple Pillar w/ Boost & Rail Pressure.

11-01-2009, 03:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
River-Runner Cummins Fan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts River-Runner's Truck Pics	MATTIAC, Thanks for the reply. Are you saying that the HID's installed in our stock headlight assembly will have a sharper cutoff than stock such that they will not blind oncoming traffic? I thought you had to get a projector housing to accomplish getting the light to go only where it is supposed to go. Isn't the goal of projectors to focus the light just and only where you want it? RiverRunner __________________ 2008 White Laramie 4 x 4 2500 Megacab Auto

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04SSHD Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 9 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts 04SSHD's Truck Pics	HID's in the stock housing will produce a lot more usable light than halogens and if properly aimed you won't have problems with blinding on coming traffic. Before I had the ram I had HID's in my BMW and I know what you mean about how much better the light is. I installed the HID Solutions kit in my truck for both headlights and fog lights and haven't looked back since! __________________ 07.5 Dodge Ram 3500HD SLT 6.7L,11/06 build,5/08 delivery,PMT,DPF & EGR fell off,G56,4.10 (3.73 soon),C&C,HBS,5000k HID Solutions lights & fogs,14,000 miles to date,35" M/T,22.5's soon,Dyno at 445hp/907tq

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AF-firfighter89 Cummins Fan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 86 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts AF-firfighter89's Truck Pics	Where can u get these kits? i would b interested also. Stock lights suck. __________________ 2003 Black 2500 4x4, Regency Package 3 in lift, 285/70 17s, 4 in. straight pipe. workin on the rest. Strobes, LED's and Siren.

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*MATTIAC* Blue Freak! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts MATTIAC's Truck Pics	HID solutions, 04SSHD is a seller or something for them, he can give you a promo code HID king on Ebay is good, or retro solutions have a kit for the dodge, there is lots of options __________________ 08 Elect Blue 6.7 Mega. 3500. Sunroof. Leather.VES. 6" BDS Lift. 37x13.50-20 Toyo OC M/T on Eagle 064B wheels. B/W Pocket Flares. ProFlo 5" TBE w/ 6" Tip. H&S Black Maxx. S&B CAI. AMSOIL. Starter/Alarm. 6000k HID HI/LOW & Fogs. Kenwood DNX9140. 2x Pioneer Series Pro Subs Pwrd by a JL 500/1 v2. Autometer Triple Pillar w/ Boost & Rail Pressure.

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inthenorth6.7 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: B.C Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts inthenorth6.7's Truck Pics	MATTIAC; what light kit do you have? and do they work with you're daytime running lights?

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morpower Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts morpower's Truck Pics	I also want the hid lights, my stock ones suck. Question though, I have a toggle switch that changes from truck lights to snow plow lights will this hid option work for me? I like what hid solutions has to offer. Just would like to know before I order them Thanks in advance __________________ 2004 Dodge slt Quad cab 4x4 , Edge prod chip, 4" Banks exaust with no muffler, silencer ring MIA, K&n Air induction kit, Bilstein 5100 Shocks, BOYO back up camera, All AMSOIL oils. Equipted with BOSS V snow plow.

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04SSHD Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 9 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts 04SSHD's Truck Pics	They should work the same. __________________ 07.5 Dodge Ram 3500HD SLT 6.7L,11/06 build,5/08 delivery,PMT,DPF & EGR fell off,G56,4.10 (3.73 soon),C&C,HBS,5000k HID Solutions lights & fogs,14,000 miles to date,35" M/T,22.5's soon,Dyno at 445hp/907tq

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WyoMike6.7 Cummins Nut Join Date: May 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 448 Thanks: 179 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts WyoMike6.7's Truck Pics	How difficult is the installation of an HID kit, I have rolled the idea around also, but I got a little disappointed in hearing about the flickering problems and it kind of turned me away from it. I suppose it's all about the kit that you buy, but I have been wondering lately if it was a difficult installation. __________________ 2008 6.7 quad cab short box - Smarty - 5'' TBE RSD - EGR Blocked - Edge JWA (Used for Gauges) - Banks CAI w/scoop - Recon chrome ion cab lights - 2'' HBS leveling kit - Rolling Big Power R94 20x10 - Toyo Open Country MT 33x12.50 - Eyelids