2500 towing 38' enclosed gooseneck HELP - Page 3

K5Cruz · 10-29-2009, 11:41 PM

This is 32', about 7k unloaded. Filled with tools and chains, and the dozer weighs between 9000-9500 pounds. Its not enclosed, but it is shaped like... well... a bulldozer. Pulls just fine, no airbags or anything, just a good brake controller.

I've also pulled a 28' bumper pull enclosed several times, no problems there either. With a good hitch I think you'll be fine.

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Drew G. · 10-29-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by winn99

Thats for the link slowlt1. I have a question. If I just used like a regular B&W ball or something similar and put something like this on the trailer "Popup Gooseneck nine inch trailer extension for shortbed trucks, Horse Trailers, gooseneck hitch, Race Car Trailers, shortbed hitch, short bed truck hitch, Popup Hitch,short bed hitches, short bed truck hitch extention solution for your gooseneck tr would that not work?

i use one on my aluminum stock trailer and i have been in plenty of real tight spots and i have never hit the cab
btw here is the trailer

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winn99 · 10-29-2009, 11:46 PM

Drew, Do you have any pictures showing the hitch setup in the back? Thanks!

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slowlt1 · 10-29-2009, 11:55 PM

Im not saying it cant be done but with that adapter but you are just making the hitch longer you are not moving the pivot point at all. I have pulled full with trailers with a short bed and can say i dont like it to much. I just wanted to give you information on what would allow you to back up and turn the most. Contact with the cab is expensive, in my opinion more money up front on a hitch is better than paying to have the roof of your cab re worked. I think converting it to a 5th wheel and using a sliding hitch is the best route and would provide the sharpest turning angle. You could also get the trailer made with a angled front box.

winn99 · 10-30-2009, 12:05 AM

I don't know much about goosenecks is why I'm asking all these ???'s. I appreciate the help. I'm not wanting to have a sliding hitch in the back of my truck all the time is the reason I don't want to go that route. Also, I found a trailer for a great price that is exactly what I want just want to find out what I need to tow it. This is confusing

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brindley · 10-30-2009, 12:08 AM

I tow a trailer similar to that, but our race trailer is 44ft with living quarter in the front. They are tounge heavy so you will definetly want air bags. you will want a slider hitch or else you will hit the cab trust me i learned the hard way.. no need for a dually our trailer pulls like a dream. they make a slidder hitch that automatically cambers it away from the cab when turning, it would be money well spent. my fifth wheel hitch is on a rail system so you can un pin the hitch and your bed is clear no hitch, I also have a goose neck adapter that fit on the rail so i can pull both types

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slowlt1 · 10-30-2009, 12:17 AM

thanks im just speaking from personal experience. Im not trying to be a dick.

winn99 · 10-30-2009, 12:18 AM

I'm really not wanting a slider hitch. Way to expensive IMO and hate how they take up the whole bed pretty much. I'm not sure if this trailer has a 5th wheel or gooseneck. Guess I will just have to find out in the morning. The picture looks like its a 5th. If it was I guess I could just get the adapter so it would hook up to a ball.
Also would something like this move the pivot point far enough back to clear the cab?
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slowlt1 · 10-30-2009, 12:34 AM

The further back the pivot point the better, but you have to do so without moving the gn plate rear of the axle. I think b and w make a 6in offset ball.... but i think they call for the hitch to be installed closer to the cab then some other brands you will just have to figure out what setup allows the pivot point furthest back.

Drew G. · 10-30-2009, 12:39 AM

no i sure dont but it puts the trailer a good 10 inches back. the only problem i would see with it is with this hitch is you cannot haul it with a flat bed truck as it wont fit in the hole unless the bed has the goose neck trough.

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Drew G. · 10-30-2009, 12:44 AM

also that extender makes it a million times easier to unhook the trailer without having to squeeze my arse into the bed.

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winn99 · 10-30-2009, 01:04 AM

How close does it come to your cab?

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10-29-2009, 11:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
K5Cruz Take Your Chrome Home. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seminole, OK Posts: 551 Thanks: 29 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts K5Cruz's Truck Pics	This is 32', about 7k unloaded. Filled with tools and chains, and the dozer weighs between 9000-9500 pounds. Its not enclosed, but it is shaped like... well... a bulldozer. Pulls just fine, no airbags or anything, just a good brake controller. I've also pulled a 28' bumper pull enclosed several times, no problems there either. With a good hitch I think you'll be fine. __________________ 2007 6.7 2500 Crew Cab 6 Speed Manual. Black, Black Rockstars, Mud Grapplers, H&S 4", MBRP, PMT, AFE, Valair DD, AD150, MP-8. 458hp/941tq. Chrome wont get you home and it only takes 13 months to get a Road Armor.

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10-29-2009, 11:46 PM	#27 (permalink)
winn99 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Colbert, Ok Posts: 259 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts winn99's Truck Pics	Drew, Do you have any pictures showing the hitch setup in the back? Thanks! __________________ Black 2008 Dodge 2500 QC 6.7L - Edge Juice w/ Attitude - Flo Pro DPF & Cat delete

10-29-2009, 11:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
slowlt1 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ofallon Missouri Posts: 158 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts slowlt1's Truck Pics	Im not saying it cant be done but with that adapter but you are just making the hitch longer you are not moving the pivot point at all. I have pulled full with trailers with a short bed and can say i dont like it to much. I just wanted to give you information on what would allow you to back up and turn the most. Contact with the cab is expensive, in my opinion more money up front on a hitch is better than paying to have the roof of your cab re worked. I think converting it to a 5th wheel and using a sliding hitch is the best route and would provide the sharpest turning angle. You could also get the trailer made with a angled front box.

10-30-2009, 12:05 AM	#29 (permalink)
winn99 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Colbert, Ok Posts: 259 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts winn99's Truck Pics	I don't know much about goosenecks is why I'm asking all these ???'s. I appreciate the help. I'm not wanting to have a sliding hitch in the back of my truck all the time is the reason I don't want to go that route. Also, I found a trailer for a great price that is exactly what I want just want to find out what I need to tow it. This is confusing __________________ Black 2008 Dodge 2500 QC 6.7L - Edge Juice w/ Attitude - Flo Pro DPF & Cat delete

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brindley Cummins Fan Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newdale Idaho Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts brindley's Truck Pics	I tow a trailer similar to that, but our race trailer is 44ft with living quarter in the front. They are tounge heavy so you will definetly want air bags. you will want a slider hitch or else you will hit the cab trust me i learned the hard way.. no need for a dually our trailer pulls like a dream. they make a slidder hitch that automatically cambers it away from the cab when turning, it would be money well spent. my fifth wheel hitch is on a rail system so you can un pin the hitch and your bed is clear no hitch, I also have a goose neck adapter that fit on the rail so i can pull both types __________________ 09 Dodge mega cab larmine 6spd auto mfg date 12/08 . h&s black max, h&s 5" tbe , h&s egr & cooler delete, Afe. 98.5 dodge reg cab 5 spd manual. edge attitude with hot Last edited by brindley : 10-30-2009 at 12:11 AM.

10-30-2009, 12:17 AM	#31 (permalink)
slowlt1 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ofallon Missouri Posts: 158 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts slowlt1's Truck Pics	thanks im just speaking from personal experience. Im not trying to be a dick.

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winn99 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Colbert, Ok Posts: 259 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts winn99's Truck Pics	I'm really not wanting a slider hitch. Way to expensive IMO and hate how they take up the whole bed pretty much. I'm not sure if this trailer has a 5th wheel or gooseneck. Guess I will just have to find out in the morning. The picture looks like its a 5th. If it was I guess I could just get the adapter so it would hook up to a ball. Also would something like this move the pivot point far enough back to clear the cab? Hitch Solutions The Rapid Hitch __________________ Black 2008 Dodge 2500 QC 6.7L - Edge Juice w/ Attitude - Flo Pro DPF & Cat delete

10-30-2009, 12:34 AM	#33 (permalink)
slowlt1 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ofallon Missouri Posts: 158 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts slowlt1's Truck Pics	The further back the pivot point the better, but you have to do so without moving the gn plate rear of the axle. I think b and w make a 6in offset ball.... but i think they call for the hitch to be installed closer to the cab then some other brands you will just have to figure out what setup allows the pivot point furthest back.

10-30-2009, 12:39 AM	#34 (permalink)
Drew G. Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Greensburg, KY Posts: 158 Thanks: 127 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Drew G.'s Truck Pics	no i sure dont but it puts the trailer a good 10 inches back. the only problem i would see with it is with this hitch is you cannot haul it with a flat bed truck as it wont fit in the hole unless the bed has the goose neck trough. __________________ There's a jungle cat in the bathroom! '03 Dodge 2500 QC CTD H.O. 6 sp stock exhaust with 5" tip.

10-30-2009, 12:44 AM	#35 (permalink)
Drew G. Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Greensburg, KY Posts: 158 Thanks: 127 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Drew G.'s Truck Pics	also that extender makes it a million times easier to unhook the trailer without having to squeeze my arse into the bed. __________________ There's a jungle cat in the bathroom! '03 Dodge 2500 QC CTD H.O. 6 sp stock exhaust with 5" tip.

10-30-2009, 01:04 AM	#36 (permalink)
winn99 Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Colbert, Ok Posts: 259 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts winn99's Truck Pics	How close does it come to your cab? __________________ Black 2008 Dodge 2500 QC 6.7L - Edge Juice w/ Attitude - Flo Pro DPF & Cat delete