What about badp????

[gearjammin6.7]

I must be missing something here. I have not adjusted my pot since I put it on the truck May 31/08. I have about 8,000 miles with this set-up and no problems to date. The truck seems to run the same everyday and I went from 15.5 MPG to 18.9 hand calculated on the interstate driving just under 70. Now that I have the PMT I have not seen a CEL in three weeks . This is my experience and so far I'm happy with it. I'm going to be doing some testing on the dyno in the next couple weeks and we'll find out it the engine is derated with this set-up. I understand what you are say but I'm not seeing the issues with my truck that your saying us C/C guys should be having if we don't use your product.

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[deleteddpf]

Ok your right and I am just making these things up.
why the need to clear codes at start up then?
like I said if you like it I love it no one is making you buy anything.
look at it like this what gives you the right to question my way if I cant question yours.
Shane

[gearjammin6.7]

Originally Posted by deleteddpf

Ok your right and I am just making these things up.
why the need to clear codes at start up then?
like I said if you like it I love it no one is making you buy anything.
look at it like this what gives you the right to question my way if I cant question yours.
Shane

I'm not saying who is right or wrong here. I'm not saying your making things up either. Your saying that our set-up will not work or won't work as well as yours. The issues that your saying our set-up will cause does not seem to be occuring on our trucks. Your box is not code free (you said so yourself) and my egr delete will sets codes. Now with the PMT my codes stop at the pending state and never get to set a CEL. So what gives

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Last edited by gearjammin6.7 : 08-25-2008 at 10:26 PM.

[poindexter6144]

Its simple then Send the box that you offered up and ill post up the results Theres no point in arguing over right or wrong we all know what works they both do but in fact the only right way to eliminate the dpf is to turn it off in the ECM

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[bvanr]

Sorry that this took so long

No problem. I appreciate the answer

It depends on what you call better

True, that is a very relative statement

If you don't mind the constant adjustment of the pot to stop Regen and the stored codes then its OK with me its not my truck.
Actually like gearjammin said...no adjustment ever

I don't feel that I have to make post that do my product justice it speaks for itself.

I agree your products do speak for themselves, I was just wanting justification to spend the money if you would lay the reasons out that would convince some of us that yours was a better way. (relatively speaking or not) before we spend the money



I don't know what you guys are getting for mpg but our test C&C saw some incredible hand calculated numbers (in Mexico that is once w took it off the trailer LOL)
This is the kind of data you could give us that might convince us to buy your product. What were the numbers?

so my point is if you want more mileage you make it more efficient is this starting to make since to you.
Yes, but as I said, I'm not an expert, just an inquiring mind that wants something to work even if I don't understand it!

I actually have one that we test (in Mexico of course) and our next project is to test this and I am not talking about a few miles we will pull a load and run empty and hand calculate everything so I will have facts to back up everything.

I'm really looking forward to that! I would be willing to test one for you and compare it to what I have collected data-wise with my current set up. I pull heavy and then drive a lot empty in between. I would pay the shipping and send it back if I didn't like or pay for if I did. I'm curious as all get out to see a comparision but don't take this as me wanting free merchandise...I'd gladly pay if it was improvement over my current system.

sorry for the book

Shane

No worries thanks!


I don't mean for this to be taken disrespectfully so please don't take it that way
None taken and none intended towards you

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Last edited by bvanr : 08-26-2008 at 08:04 AM.

[deleteddpf]

Originally Posted by poindexter6144

Its simple then Send the box that you offered up and ill post up the results Theres no point in arguing over right or wrong we all know what works they both do but in fact the only right way to eliminate the dpf is to turn it off in the ECM

You will have one as I promised.
The boards are due here on the 29th and shortly after that you will have one.

[deleteddpf]

Originally Posted by gearjammin6.7

I'm not saying who is right or wrong here. I'm not saying your making things up either. Your saying that our set-up will not work or won't work as well as yours. The issues that your saying our set-up will cause does not seem to be occuring on our trucks. Your box is not code free (you said so yourself) and my egr delete will sets codes. Now with the PMT my codes stop at the pending state and never get to set a CEL. So what gives

This is getting way out of hand
I have never said that your way wont work if you read the post that said it will work and if you like it i love it.
The pmt doesn't make it code free our system is infact code free and has been running on trucks for thousands of miles.

I promised Poindexter a module back when we were testing and when he receives it he can test and report what he finds.

Shane

[deleteddpf]

Originally Posted by poindexter6144

Its simple then Send the box that you offered up and ill post up the results Theres no point in arguing over right or wrong we all know what works they both do but in fact the only right way to eliminate the dpf is to turn it off in the ECM

You may see this sooner than you think we have been working on this very hard and now know where the info is in the dodge to turn it off its possible that there will be gen3 shortly after gen2.

[CAttletrkr]

Originally Posted by deleteddpf

You may see this sooner than you think we have been working on this very hard and now know where the info is in the dodge to turn it off its possible that there will be gen3 shortly after gen2.

Now that's a nasty little teaser!!!

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[bvanr]

Shane,

That's great to send one to Poindexter. Sorry I missed that whole part where he had asked for one. He is the perfect tester though, since he was on the front end of all of this stuff. I appreciate your willingness to "show" your product rather than "tell" us! Very cool and a great way to build trust in people like me. I've been involved in many businesses over the years so I appreciate the flack your taking and the fact your sending one out! We'll all look forward to the results as I believe Poindexter understands what's going on and will be an honest evaluator.

Van

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[gearjammin6.7]

Originally Posted by deleteddpf

This is getting way out of hand
I have never said that your way wont work if you read the post that said it will work and if you like it i love it.
The pmt doesn't make it code free our system is infact code free and has been running on trucks for thousands of miles.

I promised Poindexter a module back when we were testing and when he receives it he can test and report what he finds.

Shane

Yes I totally agree Shane....

You may want to try reading before you accuse someone of not reading.

However I did say (quote) not work and or not work as well as your module. I should have just said, not work as well (my Bad). I never said the PMT made my set-up code free. My truck sets pending codes every day. I said it will delete my codes or so called pending codes on start-up so they will not become active or (CEL). Thats how come I have not seen a CEL since the PMT has been on the truck. The last time I spoke with you guys you didn't have a code free module and from what your saying now you only have test units that will be out soon. I hope your code free sells like hot cakes and everyone loves em. I'm looking forward to hearing about all the power, drivability and MPG increases theses guys get over the pot set-up.
If they are so much better than my current set-up I'll buy one and tell eveyone to avoid the pot set-up and buy a BADP module.

Sorry so long fellas!

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[poindexter6144]

Originally Posted by deleteddpf

You may see this sooner than you think we have been working on this very hard and now know where the info is in the dodge to turn it off its possible that there will be gen3 shortly after gen2.

Thats the one make it a programmer put a couple performance tunes in it and the pots are off the truck

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