F-650 with cummins - Page 4

fast fras · 10-27-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BOOOST

The Cat doesn't have DPF?

No thanks, I'll take the cummins over the Cat! Cat has all but thrown in the towel on the 07+ trucks. IN our fleet, we have had more problems with Cat's than any of the other post 07 emissions tractors. Leader in MPG wars and reliability right now is a Cummins 525hp ISX in an 09 Pete 386 @ 7.3mpg!

We run c12's in w900's and isx-450 in t800s. The isx's are 08 with the emissions crap and cat's are 06-07 vintage with some emissions stuff (dpf). it may be how the trucks are spec, but i drive c12 with an 18sp best day 5.5mpg but it run triple digits at 80k+. the guys with the red motor/supper 10's and around 7 mpg. Given the choice I’ll take the w900 with either motor.

04SSHD · 10-27-2009, 04:27 PM

might be a good place to start

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7492 · 10-27-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee

If I was gona buy a non-factory motor it sure wouldnt be this Cummins... Doesnt make any sence, buy the CAT and forget about it.. No bullchit DPF

[size="3"]Any thing smaller than the C7 is not built by Caterpillar, but Perkins or Mitubitsi...

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Moparman · 11-02-2009, 06:34 PM

What I understand is Cat is out of the truck engine business because their motors cannot meet the new Federal emissions standards. They will however stay in the Marine business where the standards are not enforced YET.

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04SSHD · 11-02-2009, 08:29 PM

That's what I have heard as well, as soon as 2010 regulations go in effect the pull the plug

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7492 · 11-02-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Moparman

What I understand is Cat is out of the truck engine business because their motors cannot meet the new Federal emissions standards. They will however stay in the Marine business where the standards are not enforced YET.

They actually qiute 9-08 with truck engines on highway that is.. 90% at that time were off road. Emissions was not the reason though......

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studdish · 11-03-2009, 12:35 AM

For you auto guys stab the allison in a picku i wonder if thats possible, tranny is probably too huge , dad had a 650 with piece of crap c7 cat motor and allison tranny, the tranny was huge!! wonder if its the same series allison

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Offroadjunkie · 11-05-2009, 12:13 PM

im pretty sure the allison tranny in the 650s is different than the allison 1000

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CTD&TDI · 11-05-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zuozuo

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Moparman · 11-07-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Offroadjunkie

im pretty sure the allison tranny in the 650s is different than the allison 1000

Allison 3200.

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10-27-2009, 04:27 PM	#38 (permalink)
04SSHD Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 9 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts 04SSHD's Truck Pics	might be a good place to start Ford 6.7L Discussion - 6.7 Cummins Forum - Your 6.7 Cummins Resource __________________ 07.5 Dodge Ram 3500HD SLT 6.7L,11/06 build,5/08 delivery,PMT,DPF & EGR fell off,G56,4.10 (3.73 soon),C&C,HBS,5000k HID Solutions lights & fogs,14,000 miles to date,35" M/T,22.5's soon,Dyno at 445hp/907tq

11-02-2009, 06:34 PM	#40 (permalink)
Moparman Diesel Freak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: arlington tx Posts: 963 Thanks: 24 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Moparman's Truck Pics	What I understand is Cat is out of the truck engine business because their motors cannot meet the new Federal emissions standards. They will however stay in the Marine business where the standards are not enforced YET. __________________ 2006 white quad cab Dodge dually, G56, True Flow XDI air filter system, FilterMag, am/fm/cd/sirius, Fluidampr, LineX bedliner, 3.73, gooseneck hitch, Mag-Hytec rear diff cover, rear bags w/ in-cab controls, P235/80R17 Michelin LTX M&S on stock wheels

11-02-2009, 08:29 PM	#41 (permalink)
04SSHD Diesel Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 9 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts 04SSHD's Truck Pics	That's what I have heard as well, as soon as 2010 regulations go in effect the pull the plug __________________ 07.5 Dodge Ram 3500HD SLT 6.7L,11/06 build,5/08 delivery,PMT,DPF & EGR fell off,G56,4.10 (3.73 soon),C&C,HBS,5000k HID Solutions lights & fogs,14,000 miles to date,35" M/T,22.5's soon,Dyno at 445hp/907tq

11-03-2009, 12:35 AM	#43 (permalink)
studdish Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: FOCO, COLORADO Posts: 2,095 Thanks: 35 Thanked 37 Times in 26 Posts studdish's Truck Pics	For you auto guys stab the allison in a picku i wonder if thats possible, tranny is probably too huge , dad had a 650 with piece of crap c7 cat motor and allison tranny, the tranny was huge!! wonder if its the same series allison __________________ 07.5 6.7 2500 G56, leveled on MTZ 35's,B-MAXX,mp-8,MODDED RAIL, WILDcard INTAKE, ALL NEW WCC T-BARS, AFE BOOST TUBE,DiPricols-x3, All Amsoil fluids,6k HIDS, HUGE THANKS TO WALLY @ FTE DIESEL for many parts! and SPOOL'N sum LOVEFAB TWINS

11-05-2009, 12:13 PM	#44 (permalink)
Offroadjunkie Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 268 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Offroadjunkie's Truck Pics	im pretty sure the allison tranny in the 650s is different than the allison 1000 __________________ 1998.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 5speed only cold air intake, 50hp injectors, 3 piece manifold for now. Came with bags that are not hooked up