Everyday Heavy Haulers question

LaFrance454 · 09-09-2009, 09:50 PM

I tow a 50' car trailor everyday with sometimes the heaviest load 3 1 ton trucks. Does your trucks pull exactly the same with a light load say 3 cars compared to a heavy load 3 trucks. Mine does and Im not sure if it has to do with the stock clutch in it or its just how the trucks are without a programmer. I only have 5k miles on it so I doubt the clutch is bad already from towing.

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***Dreadnaught*** · 09-09-2009, 09:52 PM

i'm not doubting your word, but i call bs on 3 one tons on a 50' trailer. i have problems fitting 3 one tons on my 53' car hauler with a 8' front shotgun and a 4' rear flipper.

to answer your question, if you start out in low gear, it should start about the same no matter the load, but it should have a pretty big impact if you have 3 trucks on vs 1 car on the trailer if your pulling even slightly over flat ground.

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2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights.
Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165

Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

LaFrance454 · 09-10-2009, 10:18 PM

I have 4ft flippers on the front of the truck and I carry 3 f-350's single cab with 8ft beds no problems at all. But its wierd I find no different with running 3 cars or 3 trucks.

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07.5 6.7 G56 C&C. Stealth DPF delete, straight pipe with 5" stacks. EGR flap out and blocked. DIY cold air intake. AigDog II 165,mp-8, 4300k Bi-xenon HID, SB 3250DD, H&S XRT .

***Dreadnaught*** · 09-10-2009, 10:25 PM

i have no idea why your truck pulls the same with either load on there.

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2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights.
Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165

Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

nostroker · 09-11-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

i have no idea why your truck pulls the same with either load on there.

It will depend on the size cars you are hauling. I haul alot of regular cab diesel trucks and can not tell any difference between hauling 2 or 3 of them and hauling 2 or 3 Grand Prix, Caddys or Camrys for that matter.

By the way, I use a 48' Load Trail with flips on both ends, 2 8-k axles and can carry 3 regular cabs with no troubles!

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***Dreadnaught*** · 09-11-2009, 10:53 PM

no offence on your math, but 3 reg cab diesels are overloading your truck. once again, i;m not trying to insult you. but there has got to be something wrong with your truck somewhere. i put 3 cc 4x4 diesels on my trailer behind a 475hp1800tq c-15, and i can tell they are back there.

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2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights.
Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165

Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

nostroker · 09-11-2009, 11:04 PM

Well, lets see here, 2 regular cab diesel 2 wheel drives I just dropped off was around 5-k each. 2 4x4 diesel cc you carry are well over 8500 each so you should be able to tell they are back there......
So based on these numbers I am only 10-k plus 3600 for the trailer which equals 13600 plus the 8800lb for my truck that has a 12-k gvrw. And yours equals around 17-klbs with 2 trucks not counting your trailer.
Numbers speak for thereself, go weigh a regular cab 2wd then weigh a 4x4 cc and lets see what you come up with.

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***Dreadnaught*** · 09-11-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nostroker

Well, lets see here, 2 regular cab diesel 2 wheel drives I just dropped off was around 5-k each. 2 4x4 diesel cc you carry are well over 8500 each so you should be able to tell they are back there......
So based on these numbers I am only 10-k plus 3600 for the trailer which equals 13600 plus the 8800lb for my truck that has a 12-k gvrw. And yours equals around 17-klbs with 2 trucks not counting your trailer.
Numbers speak for thereself, go weigh a regular cab 2wd then weigh a 4x4 cc and lets see what you come up with.

he never said if the trucks were 2x4 or not. either way, its a heavy load for a pickup.

oh, and to note, i tow with a 2007 peterbilt 379. weighs in at just over 2x what his truck weighs in.

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2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights.
Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165

Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

nostroker · 09-11-2009, 11:24 PM

But your smart a** reply was to my reply and I clearly stated what I HAUL! I sure you could tell that you had some weight with 3 8500+lb trucks, but should not be a load on your truck. We use a 2000 F-650 Ford with 5.9 Cummins every so often to haul our horse trailer with and we can't tell it's back there and that trailer is 15-klbs loaded.

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Just a farm truck, with some extras..........

***Dreadnaught*** · 09-11-2009, 11:34 PM

well there are so many of you pickups trying to break into what a semi should be doing, i loose track of you.

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2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights.
Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165

Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

nostroker · 09-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

well there are so many of you pickups trying to break into what a semi should be doing, i loose track of you.

Why is that?

I am in the used car buisness and haul the vehicle I buy and no one elses! Why should I pay someone to do the samething I can do?

One other thing, a pick up is a truck with a factory install pick up bed, mine is a C/C truck that was manufactured with NO bed and set up to install any type of aftermarket bed or equipment. On top of that if mine was a so-called pickup, WHY did I have to buy commerical insurance policy for it and then have to insure each trailer I pull?

Sure I agree that some of them guys on the road that haul cars for a living with regular 1-ton pick ups, should not be, most are always overloaded, do not have the vehicles tiedown good and so on....... But that is going to be up to the DOT to stop that, no somene on a forum that is pissed about it.

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Just a farm truck, with some extras..........

LeeWayne · 09-12-2009, 07:35 PM

Don't mean to raise tempers but there is a guy that goes by the name of LittleOleHotShoter in the hauling and towing thread and he has 3500 quad cab long bed dually with no bed that pull about 35k to 45k almost every week DOT passes him every time

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09-09-2009, 09:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
LaFrance454 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Uxbridge,MA Posts: 123 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post LaFrance454's Truck Pics	Everyday Heavy Haulers question I tow a 50' car trailor everyday with sometimes the heaviest load 3 1 ton trucks. Does your trucks pull exactly the same with a light load say 3 cars compared to a heavy load 3 trucks. Mine does and Im not sure if it has to do with the stock clutch in it or its just how the trucks are without a programmer. I only have 5k miles on it so I doubt the clutch is bad already from towing. __________________ 07.5 6.7 G56 C&C. Stealth DPF delete, straight pipe with 5" stacks. EGR flap out and blocked. DIY cold air intake. AigDog II 165,mp-8, 4300k Bi-xenon HID, SB 3250DD, H&S XRT .

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09-09-2009, 09:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
*Dreadnaught* Poor Man Built Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pinckney, Mi Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 18 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Dreadnaught's Truck Pics	i'm not doubting your word, but i call bs on 3 one tons on a 50' trailer. i have problems fitting 3 one tons on my 53' car hauler with a 8' front shotgun and a 4' rear flipper. to answer your question, if you start out in low gear, it should start about the same no matter the load, but it should have a pretty big impact if you have 3 trucks on vs 1 car on the trailer if your pulling even slightly over flat ground. __________________ 2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights. Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165 Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

09-10-2009, 10:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
LaFrance454 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Uxbridge,MA Posts: 123 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post LaFrance454's Truck Pics	I have 4ft flippers on the front of the truck and I carry 3 f-350's single cab with 8ft beds no problems at all. But its wierd I find no different with running 3 cars or 3 trucks. __________________ 07.5 6.7 G56 C&C. Stealth DPF delete, straight pipe with 5" stacks. EGR flap out and blocked. DIY cold air intake. AigDog II 165,mp-8, 4300k Bi-xenon HID, SB 3250DD, H&S XRT .

09-10-2009, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Dreadnaught* Poor Man Built Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pinckney, Mi Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 18 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Dreadnaught's Truck Pics	i have no idea why your truck pulls the same with either load on there. __________________ 2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights. Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165 Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

09-11-2009, 10:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
*Dreadnaught* Poor Man Built Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pinckney, Mi Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 18 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Dreadnaught's Truck Pics	no offence on your math, but 3 reg cab diesels are overloading your truck. once again, i;m not trying to insult you. but there has got to be something wrong with your truck somewhere. i put 3 cc 4x4 diesels on my trailer behind a 475hp1800tq c-15, and i can tell they are back there. __________________ 2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights. Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165 Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

09-11-2009, 11:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
nostroker Cummins Nut Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 452 Thanks: 7 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts nostroker's Truck Pics	Well, lets see here, 2 regular cab diesel 2 wheel drives I just dropped off was around 5-k each. 2 4x4 diesel cc you carry are well over 8500 each so you should be able to tell they are back there...... So based on these numbers I am only 10-k plus 3600 for the trailer which equals 13600 plus the 8800lb for my truck that has a 12-k gvrw. And yours equals around 17-klbs with 2 trucks not counting your trailer. Numbers speak for thereself, go weigh a regular cab 2wd then weigh a 4x4 cc and lets see what you come up with. __________________ Just a farm truck, with some extras..........

09-11-2009, 11:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
nostroker Cummins Nut Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 452 Thanks: 7 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts nostroker's Truck Pics	But your smart a** reply was to my reply and I clearly stated what I HAUL! I sure you could tell that you had some weight with 3 8500+lb trucks, but should not be a load on your truck. We use a 2000 F-650 Ford with 5.9 Cummins every so often to haul our horse trailer with and we can't tell it's back there and that trailer is 15-klbs loaded. __________________ Just a farm truck, with some extras..........

09-11-2009, 11:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
*Dreadnaught* Poor Man Built Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pinckney, Mi Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 18 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Dreadnaught's Truck Pics	well there are so many of you pickups trying to break into what a semi should be doing, i loose track of you. __________________ 2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 4 door, Short bed, Auto, 315X70 R17 Hankook RF10's, Recon Cab lights. Silencer MIA, S&B CAI, 5" Expandit TBE, DiPricol (EGT, Boost, Pyro, RP, FP), Edge J/A, Air Dog DF-165 Studs, muffler delete, and CARLI SUSPENSION on the way.

09-12-2009, 07:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
LeeWayne Diesel Freak Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waco,TX........Salado,TX.........College Station,TX Posts: 716 Thanks: 33 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts LeeWayne's Truck Pics	Don't mean to raise tempers but there is a guy that goes by the name of LittleOleHotShoter in the hauling and towing thread and he has 3500 quad cab long bed dually with no bed that pull about 35k to 45k almost every week DOT passes him every time __________________ 06 5.9 3500 dually, longbed, singlecab, 6spd,