DPF Delete Laws???

[DUFFMAN]

Maybe we could get dodge onboard some how, explaining to them that it will save them money in the long run to allow these mods. Less repairs on there part for clogged turbos and such.

[DUFFMAN]

I sent an email to dimeler chrysler (miss spelled) about the DPF Delete and how it would benefit them to allow us to modify the exhaust by causing them less warranty covered turbo cleaning and that it is writen as optional equipment charging like 995 dollars on the invoice sticker on some peoples truck. I asked if they would still honor the warranty for the rest of the truck minus exhaust obviously they wrote back and said

Dear James:

Thank you for contacting the Chrysler Customer Assistance Center.
Certain changes that you might make to your vehicle do not, by
themselves, void the warranties. But your warranties don't cover any
part that we didn't supply. Nor do they cover the costs of any repairs
or adjustments that might be caused or needed because of the
installation or use of non-Chrysler parts, components, equipment,
materials or additives.

Please refer to the warranty information booklet that came with the
vehicle for details on how modifications could affect your warranty
coverages. Some modifications do not void warranties.

They also sent a copy of the manual that everyone got with there truck about the warranty. And if you look up what modifications do and dont void the warranty They underlined that the only mods that specifically void the warranty is mods to the odometer and such. Look in yoour books it is in black and white. Ill get it and put it on here. Hope this helps.

Now we just need to get Gov on board.

[DUFFMAN]

Here is exactly what the manual that come with your truck states about Aftermarket parts. It states it does not void warranty on vehical just that part and I suppose that would include affected parts

3. What's Not Covered
3.1 Modifications Not Covered
A. Some Modifications Don’t Void the
Warranties But Aren’t Covered
Certain changes that you might make to your truck
do not, by themselves, void the warranties described
in this booklet. Examples of some of these changes
are:
• installing non-DaimlerChrysler Motors
Company LLC ("DaimlerChrysler") parts,
components, or equipment (such as a non-
DaimlerChrysler radio or speed control); and
• using special non-DaimlerChrysler materials or
additives.
But your warranties don’t cover any part that was not
on your truck when it left the manufacturing plant or is
not certified for use on your truck. Nor do they cover
the costs of any repairs or adjustments that might be
caused or needed because of the installation or use of
non-DaimlerChrysler parts, components, equipment,
materials, or additives.
Performance or racing parts are considered to be non-
DaimlerChrysler parts. Repairs or adjustments caused
by their use are not covered under your warranties.
Examples of the types of alterations not covered are:
• installing accessories — except for genuine
DaimlerChrysler / MOPAR accessories installed by
an authorized Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep dealer;
• applying rustproofing or other protection
products; or
WHAT'S NOT COVERED

• using any refrigerant that DaimlerChrysler has
not approved.


B. Modifications That WILL Void Your
Warranties
These actions will void your warranties:
• disconnecting, tampering with, or altering the
odometer will void your warranties, unless your
repairing technician follows the legal requirements
for repairing or replacing odometers; or
• attaching any device that disconnects the
odometer will also void your warranties.

[mattpopp]

Originally Posted by DUFFMAN

I sent an email to dimeler chrysler (miss spelled) about the DPF Delete and how it would benefit them to allow us to modify the exhaust by causing them less warranty covered turbo cleaning and that it is writen as optional equipment charging like 995 dollars on the invoice sticker on some peoples truck. I asked if they would still honor the warranty for the rest of the truck minus exhaust obviously they wrote back and said

Dear James:

Thank you for contacting the Chrysler Customer Assistance Center.
Certain changes that you might make to your vehicle do not, by
themselves, void the warranties. But your warranties don't cover any
part that we didn't supply. Nor do they cover the costs of any repairs
or adjustments that might be caused or needed because of the
installation or use of non-Chrysler parts, components, equipment,
materials or additives.

Please refer to the warranty information booklet that came with the
vehicle for details on how modifications could affect your warranty
coverages. Some modifications do not void warranties.

They also sent a copy of the manual that everyone got with there truck about the warranty. And if you look up what modifications do and dont void the warranty They underlined that the only mods that specifically void the warranty is mods to the odometer and such. Look in yoour books it is in black and white. Ill get it and put it on here. Hope this helps.

Now we just need to get Gov on board.

you are sending your emails to the wrong people,

here ya go

Kevin Mets
Sr. Manager
Vehicle Development
HD Ram Trucks & Chassis Cab Programs
Truck Product Team
CIMS: 514-15-29
Desk: 313.493.3803
kgm2@chrysler.com

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If he brings you to it, He will see you through it

[Polaraco]

Matt

We have to flood them with messages. I mean to the point where they scream uncle.

Get a job will ya?

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[DUFFMAN]

Thanks for the email info matt. Here is a copy of what I sent. Maybe everyone should copy it make there desired changes and also send a copy.




ATTN: Kevin Mets
Sr. Manager
Vehicle Development
HD Ram Trucks & Chassis Cab Programs
Truck Product Team
CIMS: 514-15-29
Desk: 313.493.3803
kgm2@chrysler.com

Subject: 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel

Dear Mr. Mets,

I am writing to you to discuss an issue that I am sure you are very well aware of by now. As you know there is a problem with the exhaust recirculation system on the new 6.7L Turbo Diesel’s causing the stock turbo system to get constantly clogged with soot build up. The stock DPF filter has also been reported to have been getting clogged. Both of the above conditions have been repeatedly experienced by the majority of new dodge owners. Before it is brought up yes we have all been told how we are supposed to drive the vehicle to avoid this situation, but sorry doesn’t work. Only uses MORE fuel which is beginning to get very costly.


The majority of owner’s that are having the issues love their trucks minus these problems which Dodge has only given band aid fixes. I bought my truck a couple months ago and only drove it 2 months before deploying to Iraq. In those 2 months I had to take my brand new 50K+ dollar truck in to get the turbo cleaned 2 times. That is absurd. Also per your own owners manual it states to change the oil in the truck at 7500 mile intervals. Why then have I changed mine 3 times in 8000 miles?


Now to the purpose of this letter. There is a select few vendors who sell exhaust kits for our trucks that eliminate the DPF. What I and many other would like to propose is to allow these modifications and still keep the warranty on the remainder of the vehicle, Which by the warranty manual that came with the truck states it will not void the whole warranty only that of the stock exhaust. Dealers are voiding the whole warranty thou to avoid warranty covered repairs.

These modifications will benefit the owners as much as the dealers and dodge. The owners will get better fuel economy (what dodge was know for with the 5.9) and less trips to the dealer for turbo or DPF cleanings. It will benefit dodge by them no longer needing to spend time and money to clean and or replace sooted up turbo’s and DPF’s. Another supporting factor is that the DPF system has been listed on some peoples vehicle invoice, (window sticker) as OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT which we were charged $995 for. There is no possible negative effects to the motor or drive train or the vehicle with these items removed. It pretty much makes the engine the same as the well trusted 5.9L with a little bigger displacement.


I hope that we can resolve this situation with the modification stuff, I and many others truly love or trucks but don’t trust them, many have or are thinking of lemon lawing their truck. Not good for either you or us we loose our trucks you loose customers and reputation, which with the 5.9 was awesome. The whole reason I bought dodge. Once again I would like to reiterate that these mods will cause no mechanical problems; there will actually be less work on both parts for costly repairs. Both future and present costs.


I would like to thank you Kevin for your time and hope that you see our position on this dilemma.



Very Respectfully,
Your Name
Your Email

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Last edited by DUFFMAN : 07-23-2008 at 05:26 AM. Reason: forgot stuff

[DUFFMAN]

I will work the EGR issue after I get a responce on this one.

[Polaraco]

Well Done Duff

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[SoTexSmokin]

Originally Posted by DUFFMAN

I will work the EGR issue after I get a responce on this one.

so any response?

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[DemonMaestro]

my question is that ya are all conserned about the new 6.7. and the dpf delete system. When the truck first came out they said taht you do any tyupe of modification to to that the worintee is void like adding a chip but that did not last... how ever what about like from year 2003 to 2006 can you change the exost (misspelled) and have it stright pipe?

edited.... and also do the stright pipe and still be able to get the damn think inspected????????????

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Last edited by DemonMaestro : 08-14-2008 at 11:37 PM.

[MegaCummin]

Originally Posted by DemonMaestro

my question is that ya are all conserned about the new 6.7. and the dpf delete system. When the truck first came out they said taht you do any tyupe of modification to to that the worintee is void like adding a chip but that did not last... how ever what about like from year 2003 to 2006 can you change the exost (misspelled) and have it stright pipe?

edited.... and also do the stright pipe and still be able to get the damn think inspected????????????

some one needs spell check and some time to sober up lol

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[DemonMaestro]

Ya maybe but that does not answer my question...