HID Upgrade with Projector lenses....

andytk5 · 10-21-2007, 05:48 PM

Has anybody with a 3rd gen or 2006 and up done an HID conversion with the projector lenses to focus the HID beams? I want to do this but I see some guys have had problems using the stock housings.

turbodiesel3 · 10-23-2007, 08:43 PM

I would like to know what route to go with my lights...I want HID's but do not know anything about them or where to buy them....can someone help...thanks

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06RAMSPORT · 10-23-2007, 08:58 PM

I am putting an HID light kit in my 06 in the next couple of days...when it arrives anyway.

I purchased mine through xenonlink...hope I don't run into anyh problems.

I'll keep ya posted

turbodiesel3 · 10-23-2007, 09:07 PM

yeah, for sure...i would like to see pics if you can take some as well...thanks

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076.76cylinder · 10-23-2007, 10:38 PM

Make SURE you buy a Hella or Bosch system and make them work. These two are made in Germany and will last forever. I'm in the custom motorcycle industry and we install the Hella's in many customer bikes........ Best price is a few dudes off Ebay that I have ever found. You can buy new and used there...........

Just quick FYI..... if you get a 8000 or 10000 bulb you might 'think' that you are getting a better light (bright), not necessarily true... If you want a "blue" light (from hella or bosch) get the 8000 or 10000 but if you want the brightest with the most light ( I think) it's the 4000 or 6000 series bulb....... Made by Phillips in Germany

Hella has the smaller ballast and the bosch has a bigger box. You can expect to pay **** ABOUT**** 200-300 bucks for the Hella... That's what use for the last six or so years.... I will be installing them in my truck very soon......

I came across a cool deal, there is a guy on Ebay that will do a retro fit for any car and install HID. ( you can find them in the "Hella HID" section of Ebay) The article went on to say how he did a retro fit and the subject for the article was on a Dodge truck, so I read it. I was REALLY SLICK and looked almost stock. He use The Lexus 430 lens and the rear end of the light. He then retro fitted it to the back of the Dodge head light. It looked GREAT and best of all it was 100% legal in all 50 states... (im sure someone will want to argue about this)

This is what im looking to do and Im going to fallow what parts he used and try and do the same thing to mine so it will be a Hybrid of "back of light" Lexus and the front will be Dodge... Should work awesome and look great too!!!! Once you experience REAL HID you will (privately) ask your self,,,, How the helz did I ever live with the other type bulbs...... I have them on all my bikes............. Don't get suckered in with the China JUNK all over the net and in stores.... Go with HELLA or BOSCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Phillips bulb

Here is an idea off of Ebay for example, this is what we use all the time... eBay Motors: HELLA PHILIPS Gen3 HID XENON D2S CONVERSION KIT LVQ212 (item 260172799044 end time Oct-29-07 01:12:21 PDT)

I fallowed one of these guys "store fronts" to a HID forum and it was really easy to find the guy making the retro fit kits for cars on there... at the time I was not looking for this...

I have read on different DC forums that the Dodge has a trip in the head light and you will have to add a resistor to some part of the head light system. This is the only part that I don't know about YET. The factory computer checks to make sure it has a load of 35/55 W all the time or something and when you go over to the HID units they pull 55 for one second to light the gas and then they fall off to 10-20 W.. (someone might chime in to what the heck im trying to say,,,, a few beers in me doesn't help my thinking) Anyhow, if anyone hooks up an HID system and does not add the resistor the HID will come on for about 2-3 seconds, FLASH REALLY fast for about one second and then turn off..... it will do this every time you turn on and off your light... the HID ballast is being cut power or the power is being altered by the computer while the HID ballast is lighting the gas in the bulb... The resistor is about $.50 from Radio shack if I remember the post correctly. But what resistance and where to put it I don't know..... anyone reading this might want to do a little poking around before dropping $300.00 + bones..... It not a 'true' plug and play like a few years ago....

Last edited by 076.76cylinder : 10-23-2007 at 11:14 PM.

076.76cylinder · 10-23-2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andytk5

Has anybody with a 3rd gen or 2006 and up done an HID conversion with the projector lenses to focus the HID beams? I want to do this but I see some guys have had problems using the stock housings.

Just wrote a big O' post right here ^^^^^^.... Check it out ! ! ! !

LRCanon · 10-23-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 076.76cylinder

I have read on different DC forums that the Dodge has a trip in the head light and you will have to add a resistor to some part of the head light system. This is the only part that I don't know about YET. The factory computer checks to make sure it has a load of 35/55 W all the time or something and when you go over to the HID units they pull 55 for one second to light the gas and then they fall off to 10-20 W.. (someone might chime in to what the heck im trying to say,,,, a few beers in me doesn't help my thinking)

You're pretty close here 076.7....the headlamps are actually pulse width modulated from the FCM. You use a capacitor to dampen the pulses to keep the kit running. To explain.....the computer is sending high frequency pulses to the headlights while they are powered up, when the computer does not recieve that pulse back, (after it goes thru the bulb) then it knows there is something wrong and that's how it knows there is a bulb out. You don't see this "flickering" in the stock incandesent bulbs because they don't "cool off" between pulses, but you do with HID's because they are ballast driven. I am currently trying to find out which size capacitor to use for this and will post the info when I figure it out. An up and running HID kit pulls only 35 watts versus the stock bulbs 55 watts, that poses part of the problem with the flickering some run into on HID kits.

at least that's my understanding of it...hope this helps.

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076.76cylinder · 10-24-2007, 09:27 AM

There are several dudes over here Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums - Powered by vBulletin that have done it and they have write ups on it... I don’t think that I have found the correct resistor and where to install it though... I might have not looked around enough and not done all my home work

But if you are looking for the info these guys will get you almost to the finish line and get you much closer. If you’re interested.

If you find out where/when/who/what to buy/where to stick/to make it work...... will you post your findings, maybe with pictures?????

THANKS !!!!

LaMoparPower · 10-24-2007, 09:41 AM

ive got the HID's.... love em... but everyone flashes me...

too mad not in the way id like..

i was thinking about getting the projector lights off of ebay and putting hids in them.... just not sure if they can take the added heat... id hate to melt a 300 dollar set of lights...

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**Diesel_Nuts** · 10-24-2007, 10:55 AM

I am also interested in putting HID's on my truck, and would like to get some info too. lamoparpower, HID's actually run cooler than your factory headlights, and draw less power, so those projector lights will be fine. I want to do the same thing as you, and have done the research on the HID kits. Only problem is getting around the Dodge lighting problems, and I will have them on my truck.

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darsh999 · 10-24-2007, 02:38 PM

I am planing to install an HID light kit in my 06 in the next couple of days...I was wondering when it will be arrive...?

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turbodiesel3 · 10-24-2007, 02:54 PM

damn guys, didnt expect this post to go this far...but hell yeah there is a lot of info now....thanks...i went to the recommended site (xenonlinks, i think) and found the ones i like....should i buy hi/low or just lows.????

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10-23-2007, 08:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
06RAMSPORT Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 36 06RAMSPORT's Truck Pics	I am putting an HID light kit in my 06 in the next couple of days...when it arrives anyway. I purchased mine through xenonlink...hope I don't run into anyh problems. I'll keep ya posted

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turbodiesel3 DIESEL HOLIC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 269 turbodiesel3's Truck Pics	yeah, for sure...i would like to see pics if you can take some as well...thanks __________________ 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 6.7, 6spd Auto, H&S Performance (veterans edition) DPF Delete, AFE stage II cx intake, Bully Dog Power Pup, SRT-10 A-piller w/ egt gauge, 6" Fabtech suspension lift, 37x13.50 procomp xtreme all terrain's, 20" KMC "Diesel" wheels, cummins forum sticker!

10-23-2007, 10:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
076.76cylinder Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109 076.76cylinder's Truck Pics	Make SURE you buy a Hella or Bosch system and make them work. These two are made in Germany and will last forever. I'm in the custom motorcycle industry and we install the Hella's in many customer bikes........ Best price is a few dudes off Ebay that I have ever found. You can buy new and used there........... Just quick FYI..... if you get a 8000 or 10000 bulb you might 'think' that you are getting a better light (bright), not necessarily true... If you want a "blue" light (from hella or bosch) get the 8000 or 10000 but if you want the brightest with the most light ( I think) it's the 4000 or 6000 series bulb....... Made by Phillips in Germany Hella has the smaller ballast and the bosch has a bigger box. You can expect to pay ** ABOUT** 200-300 bucks for the Hella... That's what use for the last six or so years.... I will be installing them in my truck very soon...... I came across a cool deal, there is a guy on Ebay that will do a retro fit for any car and install HID. ( you can find them in the "Hella HID" section of Ebay) The article went on to say how he did a retro fit and the subject for the article was on a Dodge truck, so I read it. I was REALLY SLICK and looked almost stock. He use The Lexus 430 lens and the rear end of the light. He then retro fitted it to the back of the Dodge head light. It looked GREAT and best of all it was 100% legal in all 50 states... (im sure someone will want to argue about this) This is what im looking to do and Im going to fallow what parts he used and try and do the same thing to mine so it will be a Hybrid of "back of light" Lexus and the front will be Dodge... Should work awesome and look great too!!!! Once you experience REAL HID you will (privately) ask your self,,,, How the helz did I ever live with the other type bulbs...... I have them on all my bikes............. Don't get suckered in with the China JUNK all over the net and in stores.... Go with HELLA or BOSCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Phillips bulb Here is an idea off of Ebay for example, this is what we use all the time... eBay Motors: HELLA PHILIPS Gen3 HID XENON D2S CONVERSION KIT LVQ212 (item 260172799044 end time Oct-29-07 01:12:21 PDT) I fallowed one of these guys "store fronts" to a HID forum and it was really easy to find the guy making the retro fit kits for cars on there... at the time I was not looking for this... I have read on different DC forums that the Dodge has a trip in the head light and you will have to add a resistor to some part of the head light system. This is the only part that I don't know about YET. The factory computer checks to make sure it has a load of 35/55 W all the time or something and when you go over to the HID units they pull 55 for one second to light the gas and then they fall off to 10-20 W.. (someone might chime in to what the heck im trying to say,,,, a few beers in me doesn't help my thinking) Anyhow, if anyone hooks up an HID system and does not add the resistor the HID will come on for about 2-3 seconds, FLASH REALLY fast for about one second and then turn off..... it will do this every time you turn on and off your light... the HID ballast is being cut power or the power is being altered by the computer while the HID ballast is lighting the gas in the bulb... The resistor is about $.50 from Radio shack if I remember the post correctly. But what resistance and where to put it I don't know..... anyone reading this might want to do a little poking around before dropping $300.00 + bones..... It not a 'true' plug and play like a few years ago.... Last edited by 076.76cylinder : 10-23-2007 at 11:14 PM.

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076.76cylinder Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 109 076.76cylinder's Truck Pics	There are several dudes over here Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums - Powered by vBulletin that have done it and they have write ups on it... I don’t think that I have found the correct resistor and where to install it though... I might have not looked around enough and not done all my home work But if you are looking for the info these guys will get you almost to the finish line and get you much closer. If you’re interested. If you find out where/when/who/what to buy/where to stick/to make it work...... will you post your findings, maybe with pictures????? THANKS !!!!

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LaMoparPower Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1,275 LaMoparPower's Truck Pics	ive got the HID's.... love em... but everyone flashes me... too mad not in the way id like.. i was thinking about getting the projector lights off of ebay and putting hids in them.... just not sure if they can take the added heat... id hate to melt a 300 dollar set of lights... __________________ red 06' quad cab, 33" cooper ZEONs on 20" ballistics, onboard air, Nathan K3LA train horns, H.I.D.'s, no mo' silencer ring, AFE Mega Cannon, edge juice w/attitude w/hot unlock & mp-8, 7" mitres, smoke switch, kenwood nav/dvd indash full system w/2 12's... and.... more mods to come... just waiting on the lotto.... """finally some numbers!! 14.4 @ 98.9MPH on stock tranny and no boost""" Broke Down thinks I'm the GREATEST

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Diesel_Nuts TEXAS EAST VP Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spring Tx. Posts: 1,739 Diesel_Nuts's Truck Pics	I am also interested in putting HID's on my truck, and would like to get some info too. lamoparpower, HID's actually run cooler than your factory headlights, and draw less power, so those projector lights will be fine. I want to do the same thing as you, and have done the research on the HID kits. Only problem is getting around the Dodge lighting problems, and I will have them on my truck. __________________ 07 2500 QC (Electric Blue Pearl) 4x4, 5.9L, HTS Trans, Ostrich Seats, 8" Rize Lift, 20's on 37's, Amsoil w/ BMK-11, SMARTY, 5" MBRP, CFM+, AFE Stage 2/Nano Filter, BD Manifold, Quad Commander & Boost Fooler, FTE Rail Cap, Wicked CP3, Airdog 150, Mag Hytec Diff Covers. More to come.... DiPricol FP & RP, Thanks to John @ Holland Court....8" Mitre coming soon, Thanks to Wally @ FTE!!

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