Oil Change Required after 500 miles

jmerr15033 · 07-04-2007, 06:16 PM

My 2007 2500 with a 6.7 liter engine just had the oil change required light come on. I have only 2000 miles on the truck and changed to Delo 15W-40 after 1500 miles (as recommended by my mechanic). I am going to take to the dealer but concerned this happened. Anyone have any ideas as to why?

Thanks

rbmchief · 07-04-2007, 08:35 PM

hopefully someone will chime in, but please let us know what the dealer says the problem is.

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kansascummins · 07-04-2007, 09:23 PM

have you had the new flash done yet?

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**Duluth Diesel** · 07-04-2007, 10:04 PM

Not sure how the 07 trucks work, but most oil change monitoring systems base their indication on duration of use and oil conductivity. Conductivity measures contamination basically. Either your oil is getting prematurely contaminated, or your sensor is baked. I'd like to see an oil analysis of your engine's oil to see what is really going on in there.

-Chuck

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**Headhunter** · 07-05-2007, 09:23 AM

did you reset the oil change light? when the oil was changed?

turn key on do not start. press the gas pedal to the floor 3 times w/ in 10 sec. that will reset the oil change interval!

just a thought!

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jmerr15033 · 07-05-2007, 04:24 PM

At the dealer now. Bottom line is hey are upgrading the flash (computer) with an update from Dodge and changing the oil/filter. I then have to drive for at least 45 minutes without stopping after the update. Thanks to everyone for the information.

Can't say the process of getting someone to do this was easy. For those that want to hear the rest I will tell you the first dealer/service advisor was unwilling to do anything more than reset the indicator and told me to come back if it came on again. He tried to find the setting to change the indicator to see what mileage it was set for. He couldn't find it. Not being satisfied with that answer he gave me Dodge customer service. They were less help than the dealer and told me to go back to the dealer. Called the dealer I bought it at (far away) and they talked with a tech that just got back from training for the 6.7. He was the one that said bring it in NOW and they will update and change oil (as a safety precaution). Said the sensor is not based on any mileage and would go off based on type of driving and the actual analysis of the oil viscosity. Glad I kept asking as he mentioned scoring of the piston if you keep driving once this indicator lights. Better safe than sorry.

Joe

***TEX*** · 07-07-2007, 10:13 AM

hummmmmmmmmmm

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**Duluth Diesel** · 07-07-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmerr15033

Said the sensor is not based on any mileage and would go off based on type of driving and the actual analysis of the oil viscosity.

It is measuring conductivity, not viscosity. Not surprised that the service writer lost that in translation.

-Chuck

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Texas Cummins Fan · 07-07-2007, 08:33 PM

I'd take the conductivity measure over viscosity everytime... If it really works, will tell you small changes to the TBN / TAN alond with any dillution that occurs. I didn't run across anything in my owners manual on this, do you know of any information on this sensor?

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**Duluth Diesel** · 07-08-2007, 08:06 AM

Oil is a nonconductive matrix. As contamination, electrical conductivity will increase. I'm not sure what sensor the new trucks have, but I did find this link that should give you an idea of the capabilities of such systems. It appears that the sensor IS able to make assumptions about viscosity based on conductivity data. I'm betting that they know how conductivity changes with diesel fuel contamination, which would definately influence the viscosity of the oil.

Delphi Diesel Engine Oil Condition Sensor

-Chuck

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Texas Cummins Fan · 07-08-2007, 08:40 AM

Thanks... If the new Cummins has something like this and there is some way to check calibration if the unit as time goes by, then we will all have a new weapon in our efforts to combat engine wear.

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***upnorth*** · 08-05-2007, 09:32 AM

My dealer was happy to order the truck I wanted to get my money but for the rest....
Because of all of you guys, I know more about my truck than all the Dodge's mechanics and technicians in Sudbury, On. For the oil change light or notification, the answer I got is if the light comes on too soon, just reset it and keep on driving and follow the oil change interval describe in the owner's manual. They didn't even know that CJ4 oil was required in the 6.7. Good thing I don't have any nightmares with the truck yet.

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07-04-2007, 06:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
jmerr15033 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7 jmerr15033's Truck Pics	Oil Change Required after 500 miles My 2007 2500 with a 6.7 liter engine just had the oil change required light come on. I have only 2000 miles on the truck and changed to Delo 15W-40 after 1500 miles (as recommended by my mechanic). I am going to take to the dealer but concerned this happened. Anyone have any ideas as to why? Thanks

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07-04-2007, 08:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
rbmchief Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: casper wy Posts: 2,350 rbmchief's Truck Pics	hopefully someone will chime in, but please let us know what the dealer says the problem is. __________________ 02 2500 slt 4x4,auto,icebox cai,silencer ring mia, Quad xzt+,jhook, Pinnacle 4" turbo back exhaust,westach elec fuel guage, isspro transtemp,boost,egt guages in pillar, line x in bed, runnin 2 stroke.

07-04-2007, 09:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
kansascummins Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: kansas Posts: 157 kansascummins's Truck Pics	have you had the new flash done yet? __________________ 07 3500 DRW,4*4, 6.7L, 6 speed auto,edge juice with attitude, 4" TBE, EGR delete, Icebox, 19.5 aluminum wheels, pulls 30' stock trailer around midwest

07-04-2007, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Duluth Diesel Twin Port Sales, Authorized Amsoil Dealer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 6,156 Duluth Diesel's Truck Pics	Not sure how the 07 trucks work, but most oil change monitoring systems base their indication on duration of use and oil conductivity. Conductivity measures contamination basically. Either your oil is getting prematurely contaminated, or your sensor is baked. I'd like to see an oil analysis of your engine's oil to see what is really going on in there. -Chuck __________________ AMSOIL ONLINE STORE - DISCOUNT PRICING AVAILABLE CLICK HERE FOR A FREE AMSOIL CATALOG *TWIN PORT SALES - AMSOIL* SHIPPED DIRECT CHANGE YOUR THINKING, NOT YOUR OIL. INJEN Nanofiber Intake Systems**

07-05-2007, 09:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
Headhunter Illinois Chapter President Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ILLINOIs Posts: 875 Headhunter's Truck Pics	did you reset the oil change light? when the oil was changed? turn key on do not start. press the gas pedal to the floor 3 times w/ in 10 sec. that will reset the oil change interval! just a thought! __________________ Illinois Cummins Crew President Illinois Chapter Forum 2000 Ram 3500 6x4x2 dually, Hand shaker, 5 inch Bullhaulers (homemade KIT) , ISSPRO Guages, Flip up tow-mirrors, Air Dog, Smarty 2007.5 Ram 3500 6X4X4 DUALLY, 68RFE, Laramie H Pack, Line-X, Luverne Running boards, Front & rear Sunglasses! 6.7L of fun! Sunroof, Auto pilot

07-05-2007, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
jmerr15033 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7 jmerr15033's Truck Pics	At the dealer now. Bottom line is hey are upgrading the flash (computer) with an update from Dodge and changing the oil/filter. I then have to drive for at least 45 minutes without stopping after the update. Thanks to everyone for the information. Can't say the process of getting someone to do this was easy. For those that want to hear the rest I will tell you the first dealer/service advisor was unwilling to do anything more than reset the indicator and told me to come back if it came on again. He tried to find the setting to change the indicator to see what mileage it was set for. He couldn't find it. Not being satisfied with that answer he gave me Dodge customer service. They were less help than the dealer and told me to go back to the dealer. Called the dealer I bought it at (far away) and they talked with a tech that just got back from training for the 6.7. He was the one that said bring it in NOW and they will update and change oil (as a safety precaution). Said the sensor is not based on any mileage and would go off based on type of driving and the actual analysis of the oil viscosity. Glad I kept asking as he mentioned scoring of the piston if you keep driving once this indicator lights. Better safe than sorry. Joe

07-07-2007, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
*TEX* Diesel Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: TAYLOR TX/CARIBOU ME Posts: 2,326 TEX's Truck Pics	hummmmmmmmmmm __________________ 2006 Quad Cab-Short bed-4X4-CTD-SLT-Silver-Auto-3.73-Big Horn Pkg-AeroTurbine 4040XL-MBRP 5" Dual Wall Angle Cut Tip see garage for pics-Blue Cool Hose Kit-Amsoil 4510-ISSPRO Turbo Timer/Monitor-285 BFG AT'S-BMK 11 By Pass-Draw Tite Gooseneck Hitch-DiPricol Optix Gauges Boost,EGT,Trans Temp Wife:2005 VW Passat TDI Work: 2004 Pierce Contender with 8.3L Cummins---Fire Truck

07-07-2007, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Texas Cummins Fan Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 25 Texas Cummins Fan's Truck Pics	I'd take the conductivity measure over viscosity everytime... If it really works, will tell you small changes to the TBN / TAN alond with any dillution that occurs. I didn't run across anything in my owners manual on this, do you know of any information on this sensor? __________________ 2007.5, 2500 Mega Cab, Mineral Grey Metallic, 6.7, 6 speed auto, 3.73 rear end. Stock at this time.

07-08-2007, 08:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Duluth Diesel Twin Port Sales, Authorized Amsoil Dealer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 6,156 Duluth Diesel's Truck Pics	Oil is a nonconductive matrix. As contamination, electrical conductivity will increase. I'm not sure what sensor the new trucks have, but I did find this link that should give you an idea of the capabilities of such systems. It appears that the sensor IS able to make assumptions about viscosity based on conductivity data. I'm betting that they know how conductivity changes with diesel fuel contamination, which would definately influence the viscosity of the oil. Delphi Diesel Engine Oil Condition Sensor -Chuck __________________ AMSOIL ONLINE STORE - DISCOUNT PRICING AVAILABLE CLICK HERE FOR A FREE AMSOIL CATALOG *TWIN PORT SALES - AMSOIL* SHIPPED DIRECT CHANGE YOUR THINKING, NOT YOUR OIL. INJEN Nanofiber Intake Systems**

07-08-2007, 08:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Texas Cummins Fan Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 25 Texas Cummins Fan's Truck Pics	Thanks... If the new Cummins has something like this and there is some way to check calibration if the unit as time goes by, then we will all have a new weapon in our efforts to combat engine wear. __________________ 2007.5, 2500 Mega Cab, Mineral Grey Metallic, 6.7, 6 speed auto, 3.73 rear end. Stock at this time.

08-05-2007, 09:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
*upnorth* Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Posts: 142 upnorth's Truck Pics	My dealer was happy to order the truck I wanted to get my money but for the rest.... Because of all of you guys, I know more about my truck than all the Dodge's mechanics and technicians in Sudbury, On. For the oil change light or notification, the answer I got is if the light comes on too soon, just reset it and keep on driving and follow the oil change interval describe in the owner's manual. They didn't even know that CJ4 oil was required in the 6.7. Good thing I don't have any nightmares with the truck yet. __________________ 07.5 2500 QC 6.7 68rfe, n-fab step & pre runner light bar,BW flares, striker 170, 295 Toyo MT,