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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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Water pump failure..

I was driving down the highway to go to work this morning and had the low coolant light pop up. Pulled off to see what was going on only to find coolant pouring out of the bottom of the engine. I was able to flip around and get to the dealership. Just wondering if anyone else had had this issue and at what mileage it happened at. At only 48k miles, I was a little shocked that the water pump would fail this early. My 1978 Jeep is still running the original water pump....

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Water pump failure is a known issue,there is a multipage thread on the forum,I don't have the link handy.There is also a thread about the differences in WP's over the years.
Did your dealership have WP in stock?
If Brockman is online maybe he will link to his troubles getting a WP.
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very common problem on these. definitely been some issues getting them at part stores too, so i'd recommend another Cummins one

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FWIW:

I'm running the zone's WP because it has a lifetime warranty. I made the executive decision to use one with a lifetime warranty over OEM because of premature failure. I think a water pump should last longer than 67000 miles. Fool me once kinda thing..

I'd imagine the aftermarket pump has a better bearing/seal. I mean, why would they offer a lifetime warranty if they're going to have to replace it 2-3 times, etc.

Best wishes on your dealer visit. If you had a few sockets, breaker bar and some time handy you could easily do this job yourself. But, if your under warranty i'd take the free inconvenience option too.
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As many failed water pump accounts on 3rd and 4th gens are out there,a market exists for a company to manufacture a higher grade pump.

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Wow, 67k on a water pump seems short lived. Any ideas as to what causes it, bearings, seals, corrosion?

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As many failed water pump accounts on 3rd and 4th gens are out there,a market exists for a company to manufacture a higher grade pump.
I have been sort of contemplating the idea of maybe trying to have a couple prototypes made. Full billet units of course.

I have not looked into it very deeply yet though.

SOMEBODY has to make one. Its truly getting out of hand.

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Wow, 67k on a water pump seems short lived. Any ideas as to what causes it, bearings, seals, corrosion?

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Quick observation on the bench showed the bearing having so much play it allowed the shaft enough run-out to damage the seal. You should checkout the OP his didn't even make it 50k...! messed up!
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This is completely unacceptable. How long has cummins been building engines? They know how to make a quality water pump.

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Concentric makes the water pumps....

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And cummins is bolting them onto their engines knowing full well it is a inferior unit.

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And cummins is bolting them onto their engines knowing full well it is a inferior unit.

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Go out and find a better one then. When you do, I'll buy 2.

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