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Old 03-18-2013, 08:18 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Yep you are right ... The battery clothes is the factory with only GDP sticker added on you can have it directly from the dealers ..

I got my wrap from s&b filters direct. Like upandcummer say .. The wrap is a really nice add for the buck !really protect from dirt .
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I'm impatiently waiting today as my S&B is "on the UPS truck for delivery" today. Thanks to cummins-355 for this thread. I bookmarked it a while back for this day.
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I'm impatiently waiting today as my S&B is "on the UPS truck for delivery" today. Thanks to cummins-355 for this thread. I bookmarked it a while back for this day.
Happy to hear that you enter in the s&b family ! Thanks so much, it's a plaisure and It's really nice if I can help people !!! Let's me know your experience with s&b filters and feel free to post some pics : )

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Installed.

I didn't get the scoop and the instructions talk about installing the block off plate. It states that they recommend leaving it off for the additional air flow. Put the plate in if concerned about engine heated air. I left it off.

I found oil film in my turbo and in the hose when I removed the OE intake so plugged the CCV hose on the S&B and put a valve breather filter on the CCV outlet. $17 in parts from O'Reileys.

My install has the intake tube right up against the oil filter as in one of the earlier posts in this thread. I've checked and the intake box placement seems to be correct. I don't think the intake tube is touching the oil filter but it is REALLY close.
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Here are images of my install. Does the clearance between the intake tube and the oil filter seem normal?
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Here are images of my install. Does the clearance between the intake tube and the oil filter seem normal?
Thanks so much for your reply !!!

Yes normally you close the bottom of the CIA if you are in snow area or you do hard mud but if not you always have it open it put more airflow in the airbox !

Yes it's what I did for my truck too .. Cheap and avoid to have oil in the turbo!

I hope you love your new CIA kit ? : ) look really clean!
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If you don't mind I'd like to through in a thought or two.

Prior to this, I had the Banks CAI with snout and was happy with it until I noticed over time that there were little option with them, you can only go to them for anything for replacement parts, and most of the time, per a guy at Banks, you need to order a new unit. I didn't care for that.

I now have the S&B with snout on my truck and 'Very Happy with it'. And to add in here, this thread and the discussion was the best I could find for an out of state friend, for info and installation discussions that help him out a lot while he installed his.

S&B is a good unit. But I found over time that the oiled units made by anyone has an inherent flaw. The oil can / will get past the filter over time.

When most people clean the unit, they either oil when the filter is 'not totally dry' or 'over oil', (this is easy) and either way, the air flow will carry oil particles down the air tube and onto the turbo fan blades, and when the turbo blades are unbalance, will cause early bearing wear. (I've found 2 people that this happen to) If a person does properly oil the filter, there is a possible dilution of the oil in heavy rains and when they are traveling at highway speeds with the moisture clinging to the filter / pre filter and touching the filter for dilution. Unless there is a good amount of moisture, this is a very low possibility.

This is why I was looking at the dry filter unit. I did like the S&B dry filter. (but it was $45.00 plus tax?/shipping each change out)

I did notice something found on the Banks and not on the S&B which was handy. Banks had a hole pre-manufactured for the filter minder unit from the original air box. This is normally not considered by the manufactures and the vehicle owners until the unit is dirty, has loss of power and mpg. It is a very handy indicator for when you will be approaching servicing time, (even with the view plate on the S&B, the filter minder will tell you the actual performance of the filter, not just a particle view). I emailed S&B about this and asked if the owner installed the filter minder, by this action, does this void the warrantee or at least their toughest or comments. It's been over 7 months and no response.

I ran into another limitation. The actual mileage / time per filter is limited by the persons mileage, weather conditions traveled and with or without a pre filter, and such. At $45 per filter, I went looking for a re-usable filter element that was non-oiled. Sort of like finding a needle in the hay stack situation. I found something at aFe, their #50506 filter. A little smaller than the S&B dry filter, fits the S&B unit, easy to remove and clean, in the long run would be cheaper to own, and NO oil.

I haven't had it long enough to say anything about this set up, but thought I'd through it in here for others to consider or comment on. Like on a long distance trip, I went through three states (TX, MN, AZ) that had high winds, the farmers were plowing and by end of day, I found the filter full with dirt. I went into the motel room for the night, brought the filter in, cleaned it in the shower, and went to sleep. The next morning I was bright eyed and bushy tailed with a clean filter to be installed for the next leg of my trip. If this was a stock dry, I would have had to have a spare, if oiled would have tried to figure how to clean and not get into trouble polluting the motel property. With this unit, it was a couple minutes work taking out and installation.
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Does the S&B fit the 2013's?
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On their webpage, they only show up to 2012.
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But I would call them to see what is possible. They may have or will soon have one, and they will be the ones who will know. (the 2012 might fit the 2013)

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If you don't mind I'd like to through in a thought or two.

Prior to this, I had the Banks CAI with snout and was happy with it until I noticed over time that there were little option with them, you can only go to them for anything for replacement parts, and most of the time, per a guy at Banks, you need to order a new unit. I didn't care for that.

I now have the S&B with snout on my truck and 'Very Happy with it'. And to add in here, this thread and the discussion was the best I could find for an out of state friend, for info and installation discussions that help him out a lot while he installed his.

S&B is a good unit. But I found over time that the oiled units made by anyone has an inherent flaw. The oil can / will get past the filter over time.

When most people clean the unit, they either oil when the filter is 'not totally dry' or 'over oil', (this is easy) and either way, the air flow will carry oil particles down the air tube and onto the turbo fan blades, and when the turbo blades are unbalance, will cause early bearing wear. (I've found 2 people that this happen to) If a person does properly oil the filter, there is a possible dilution of the oil in heavy rains and when they are traveling at highway speeds with the moisture clinging to the filter / pre filter and touching the filter for dilution. Unless there is a good amount of moisture, this is a very low possibility.

This is why I was looking at the dry filter unit. I did like the S&B dry filter. (but it was $45.00 plus tax?/shipping each change out)

I did notice something found on the Banks and not on the S&B which was handy. Banks had a hole pre-manufactured for the filter minder unit from the original air box. This is normally not considered by the manufactures and the vehicle owners until the unit is dirty, has loss of power and mpg. It is a very handy indicator for when you will be approaching servicing time, (even with the view plate on the S&B, the filter minder will tell you the actual performance of the filter, not just a particle view). I emailed S&B about this and asked if the owner installed the filter minder, by this action, does this void the warrantee or at least their toughest or comments. It's been over 7 months and no response.

I ran into another limitation. The actual mileage / time per filter is limited by the persons mileage, weather conditions traveled and with or without a pre filter, and such. At $45 per filter, I went looking for a re-usable filter element that was non-oiled. Sort of like finding a needle in the hay stack situation. I found something at aFe, their #50506 filter. A little smaller than the S&B dry filter, fits the S&B unit, easy to remove and clean, in the long run would be cheaper to own, and NO oil.

I haven't had it long enough to say anything about this set up, but thought I'd through it in here for others to consider or comment on. Like on a long distance trip, I went through three states (TX, MN, AZ) that had high winds, the farmers were plowing and by end of day, I found the filter full with dirt. I went into the motel room for the night, brought the filter in, cleaned it in the shower, and went to sleep. The next morning I was bright eyed and bushy tailed with a clean filter to be installed for the next leg of my trip. If this was a stock dry, I would have had to have a spare, if oiled would have tried to figure how to clean and not get into trouble polluting the motel property. With this unit, it was a couple minutes work taking out and installation.
Regardless of which one you go with, you should check into a filter wrap. I have an amsoil filter wrap on the wife's jeep and an S&B filter wrap on my truck. I have the S&B intake with scoop on my truck. Initially I wanted to run a Amsoil air filter, but I couldn't find one that fit. I originally had the dry filter (without wrap) because I was worried about the oil. It was filthy pretty quickly. When I said screw it I will just get the cleanable one. I ordered the cleanable/oiled one and a filter wrap. In probably 15k+ miles I haven't had to clean the filter. All I have done is pull the filter and wrap out, clean the box, wipe off the filter wrap, and reinstall. My intake and turbo are both clean and oil free. I guess the main purpose of me rambling on is, if you put a wrap on the filter you have, you might not have had to clean it in the shower, and just wiped off the wrap.
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If you don't mind I'd like to through in a thought or two.

Prior to this, I had the Banks CAI with snout and was happy with it until I noticed over time that there were little option with them, you can only go to them for anything for replacement parts, and most of the time, per a guy at Banks, you need to order a new unit. I didn't care for that.

I now have the S&B with snout on my truck and 'Very Happy with it'. And to add in here, this thread and the discussion was the best I could find for an out of state friend, for info and installation discussions that help him out a lot while he installed his.

S&B is a good unit. But I found over time that the oiled units made by anyone has an inherent flaw. The oil can / will get past the filter over time.

When most people clean the unit, they either oil when the filter is 'not totally dry' or 'over oil', (this is easy) and either way, the air flow will carry oil particles down the air tube and onto the turbo fan blades, and when the turbo blades are unbalance, will cause early bearing wear. (I've found 2 people that this happen to) If a person does properly oil the filter, there is a possible dilution of the oil in heavy rains and when they are traveling at highway speeds with the moisture clinging to the filter / pre filter and touching the filter for dilution. Unless there is a good amount of moisture, this is a very low possibility.

This is why I was looking at the dry filter unit. I did like the S&B dry filter. (but it was $45.00 plus tax?/shipping each change out)

I did notice something found on the Banks and not on the S&B which was handy. Banks had a hole pre-manufactured for the filter minder unit from the original air box. This is normally not considered by the manufactures and the vehicle owners until the unit is dirty, has loss of power and mpg. It is a very handy indicator for when you will be approaching servicing time, (even with the view plate on the S&B, the filter minder will tell you the actual performance of the filter, not just a particle view). I emailed S&B about this and asked if the owner installed the filter minder, by this action, does this void the warrantee or at least their toughest or comments. It's been over 7 months and no response.

I ran into another limitation. The actual mileage / time per filter is limited by the persons mileage, weather conditions traveled and with or without a pre filter, and such. At $45 per filter, I went looking for a re-usable filter element that was non-oiled. Sort of like finding a needle in the hay stack situation. I found something at aFe, their #50506 filter. A little smaller than the S&B dry filter, fits the S&B unit, easy to remove and clean, in the long run would be cheaper to own, and NO oil.

I haven't had it long enough to say anything about this set up, but thought I'd through it in here for others to consider or comment on. Like on a long distance trip, I went through three states (TX, MN, AZ) that had high winds, the farmers were plowing and by end of day, I found the filter full with dirt. I went into the motel room for the night, brought the filter in, cleaned it in the shower, and went to sleep. The next morning I was bright eyed and bushy tailed with a clean filter to be installed for the next leg of my trip. If this was a stock dry, I would have had to have a spare, if oiled would have tried to figure how to clean and not get into trouble polluting the motel property. With this unit, it was a couple minutes work taking out and installation.
We appreciate your nice comments and support of our brand. Just a couple of points of clarification.

Does oil bypass the filter?
First, we have done extensive testing and have found that the oil does not go past the filter. The dye we use to color the filter red does fade slightly over time, but the oil is still on the filter and protecting your engine. Even if a slight amount of oil did bypass the filter, it should not hurt your turbo as vehicle was designed to have the crankcase tube funnel oil vapors (and some oil) back into the intake tube and ultimately on your turbo.

Properly Oiling your Filter
That being said, if you over oil your filter, this could cause problems which is why we have the Precision Cleaning & Oiling Kit which allows you to easily meter the amount of oil you apply to the filter. We post the oil amounts for each filter on our website. The oil is the primary filtering agent. We do extensive testing to determine the proper amount of oil to use on each filter to achieve the best combination of airflow and efficiency. It is critical that you apply the correct amount of oil to your filter; otherwise, it will not perform properly. You should never use an aerosol can to re-oil your filter unless you have a scale that measures in grams.

Dry Filters
With respect to your comments on dry filters, our dry filters are disposable. You can extend the life of the filter by blowing it out with compressed air from the inside out and on the outside, but ultimately the filter must be thrown away. We have done extensive research trying to find a filter media that was both dry and cleanable, but have not been able to find one that was able to protect your engine properly. We are aware that our competitors market their dry filters as "cleanable;" however, the testing we have done yielded results that were below our standards which is why we don't offer a similar filter. Our primary concern is providing you with a filter/intake that provides a significant improvement in airflow while STILL properly protecting your engine.

Filter Wraps
We highly recommend filter wraps for both our cleanable and dry filters. While the filter wrap increases the restriction slightly with a clean filter, the filter wrap helps your airflow as the filter starts to load with dirt. It also makes it easier to clean your filter as you don't have to spend time picking out bug parts, etc from the media. The filter wraps can be easily cleaned with warm water.

Filter Minder
The OE filter minder is calibrated for the OE filter/intake and won't work properly which is why we don't provide a port for you to install it. That being said, we do provide a port for those vehicles with electronic filter minders to avoid getting any codes.
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