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I think I can add some useful information to this thread in order to help the members of this forum to understand better what the UDC Pro is about.
Let me start with the Real Time tuning. I think you're under-estimating the possibilities it provides!

In my opinion it is a major breakthrough for the Cummins tuning. It's both a tool for whoever tunes a Cummins, be that a professional or a beginner,
AND it allows for "switchable" tunes. The ability to tune in Real Time (RT) opens new horizons to any tuner. Personally, I've been able to understand
better than before how the ECM really operates and what it does since we got this toy to work.

Being able to modify a single parameter, a whole map or multiple maps and parameters and send them to the ECM within seconds and then test how
the truck reacts is priceless. What takes hours or days to figure out with anything else out there can be done within minutes with the RT!
The RT -Tuning- may not be relevant to most? I would not be so sure. Once people will understand how easy it makes it to LEARN tuning....

The other important aspect of the Real Time functionality we have developed is the ability to switch between different tuning files on the fly.
One programs the ECM with a decent "base file" and then adds the RT tunes on top of it. The Real Time tunes are stored on the display's SD
card and the switching between different tunes is done directly from the Display. No need to install switches!
Ease of installation & use combined with almost unlimited flexibility was my goal in this. I think we delivered just that.

Now I'd like to address the actual data logging capabilities we have.
First and foremost, it is NOT what is should be since it is limited to only 6 PID's at a time.
I need to take you with me "behind the scene" for a moment. So, we started the project UDC Pro, Real Time...yada...yada...a couple years ago.
What's first on the to do list? Of course the tuning software! What does one data log if he has not tuned the truck first? So we implemented a
somewhat simple data logging feature and then proceeded with what I choose to be more important. You guessed it, the TUNING!

Fast forward to today, now that we've covered 95% percent of the tuning basics, it is of course time to get back to work on the data logging.
Where do we stand today? The needed ECM code modifications (for a complete data logging capability) are already 90% done for all ECM's from
1998.5 to present. To make a longish story short, within this summer we will have the first beta versions ready.
Data log is written onto the SD Card and from there down to the PC.

Phale sez:
"... But what if the software does not contain a key table that I as a professional tuner utilize?
Can I add in my own user defined data? Can I edit my .bin files outside of warp and then import them? Before it is said that raceme can add
tables for me, keep in mind that I don't like sharing my hard work within hex to find, define, and edit tables with the masses..."

This is interesting and I honestly have never given it a thought!
To keep my answer short. It is doable and can be implemented into the UDC Pro without too much effort. Of course, there are several technical
aspects that will need to be addressed. Like for example data format, addresses, length of tables just to mention a few but it can be done.
Since you mention "sharing", of course I will need to watch my back also in doing this since this could potentially be an easy way to break into my
encryption. Other than that, a no brainer.

Sorry for the long read!

Thanks,

Marco

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I think I can add some useful information to this thread in order to help the members of this forum to understand better what the UDC Pro is about.
Let me start with the Real Time tuning. I think you're under-estimating the possibilities it provides!

In my opinion it is a major breakthrough for the Cummins tuning. It's both a tool for whoever tunes a Cummins, be that a professional or a beginner,
AND it allows for "switchable" tunes. The ability to tune in Real Time (RT) opens new horizons to any tuner. Personally, I've been able to understand
better than before how the ECM really operates and what it does since we got this toy to work.

Being able to modify a single parameter, a whole map or multiple maps and parameters and send them to the ECM within seconds and then test how
the truck reacts is priceless. What takes hours or days to figure out with anything else out there can be done within minutes with the RT!
The RT -Tuning- may not be relevant to most? I would not be so sure. Once people will understand how easy it makes it to LEARN tuning....

The other important aspect of the Real Time functionality we have developed is the ability to switch between different tuning files on the fly.
One programs the ECM with a decent "base file" and then adds the RT tunes on top of it. The Real Time tunes are stored on the display's SD
card and the switching between different tunes is done directly from the Display. No need to install switches!
Ease of installation & use combined with almost unlimited flexibility was my goal in this. I think we delivered just that.

Now I'd like to address the actual data logging capabilities we have.
First and foremost, it is NOT what is should be since it is limited to only 6 PID's at a time.
I need to take you with me "behind the scene" for a moment. So, we started the project UDC Pro, Real Time...yada...yada...a couple years ago.
What's first on the to do list? Of course the tuning software! What does one data log if he has not tuned the truck first? So we implemented a
somewhat simple data logging feature and then proceeded with what I choose to be more important. You guessed it, the TUNING!

Fast forward to today, now that we've covered 95% percent of the tuning basics, it is of course time to get back to work on the data logging.
Where do we stand today? The needed ECM code modifications (for a complete data logging capability) are already 90% done for all ECM's from
1998.5 to present. To make a longish story short, within this summer we will have the first beta versions ready.
Data log is written onto the SD Card and from there down to the PC.

Phale sez:
"... But what if the software does not contain a key table that I as a professional tuner utilize?
Can I add in my own user defined data? Can I edit my .bin files outside of warp and then import them? Before it is said that raceme can add
tables for me, keep in mind that I don't like sharing my hard work within hex to find, define, and edit tables with the masses..."

This is interesting and I honestly have never given it a thought!
To keep my answer short. It is doable and can be implemented into the UDC Pro without too much effort. Of course, there are several technical
aspects that will need to be addressed. Like for example data format, addresses, length of tables just to mention a few but it can be done.
Since you mention "sharing", of course I will need to watch my back also in doing this since this could potentially be an easy way to break into my
encryption. Other than that, a no brainer.

Sorry for the long read!

Thanks,

Marco
Thanks for all of your hard work and continued support for all of the 98.5-16 Cummins tuning platforms over the years Marco! It does not go unnoticed and we truly appreciate it!
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I think I can add some useful information to this thread in order to help the members of this forum to understand better what the UDC Pro is about.
Let me start with the Real Time tuning. I think you're under-estimating the possibilities it provides!

In my opinion it is a major breakthrough for the Cummins tuning. It's both a tool for whoever tunes a Cummins, be that a professional or a beginner,
AND it allows for "switchable" tunes. The ability to tune in Real Time (RT) opens new horizons to any tuner. Personally, I've been able to understand
better than before how the ECM really operates and what it does since we got this toy to work.

Being able to modify a single parameter, a whole map or multiple maps and parameters and send them to the ECM within seconds and then test how
the truck reacts is priceless. What takes hours or days to figure out with anything else out there can be done within minutes with the RT!
The RT -Tuning- may not be relevant to most? I would not be so sure. Once people will understand how easy it makes it to LEARN tuning....

The other important aspect of the Real Time functionality we have developed is the ability to switch between different tuning files on the fly.
One programs the ECM with a decent "base file" and then adds the RT tunes on top of it. The Real Time tunes are stored on the display's SD
card and the switching between different tunes is done directly from the Display. No need to install switches!
Ease of installation & use combined with almost unlimited flexibility was my goal in this. I think we delivered just that.

Now I'd like to address the actual data logging capabilities we have.
First and foremost, it is NOT what is should be since it is limited to only 6 PID's at a time.
I need to take you with me "behind the scene" for a moment. So, we started the project UDC Pro, Real Time...yada...yada...a couple years ago.
What's first on the to do list? Of course the tuning software! What does one data log if he has not tuned the truck first? So we implemented a
somewhat simple data logging feature and then proceeded with what I choose to be more important. You guessed it, the TUNING!

Fast forward to today, now that we've covered 95% percent of the tuning basics, it is of course time to get back to work on the data logging.
Where do we stand today? The needed ECM code modifications (for a complete data logging capability) are already 90% done for all ECM's from
1998.5 to present. To make a longish story short, within this summer we will have the first beta versions ready.
Data log is written onto the SD Card and from there down to the PC.

Phale sez:
"... But what if the software does not contain a key table that I as a professional tuner utilize?
Can I add in my own user defined data? Can I edit my .bin files outside of warp and then import them? Before it is said that raceme can add
tables for me, keep in mind that I don't like sharing my hard work within hex to find, define, and edit tables with the masses..."

This is interesting and I honestly have never given it a thought!
To keep my answer short. It is doable and can be implemented into the UDC Pro without too much effort. Of course, there are several technical
aspects that will need to be addressed. Like for example data format, addresses, length of tables just to mention a few but it can be done.
Since you mention "sharing", of course I will need to watch my back also in doing this since this could potentially be an easy way to break into my
encryption. Other than that, a no brainer.

Sorry for the long read!

Thanks,

Marco
Great read! Thanks for the update and info!

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I'm sorry can anyone explain the pricing scheme and how/where to get dongles and when the full software will be released? I thought it was being released this week but all I got was a broken link from Franz.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but does this mean I need to get a different dongle than the one that came with the ultra in order to take advantage of the warp tuning once I do the software update? Havent done the software update yet, still on the 003M version.

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No new dongle to use warp but you must purchase a one time license key for warp if you wish to tune yourself. If you are getting custom tunes written by a custom tuner he will already have a licence key. Keep in mind the licence key that writes the tune is the only key that can modify it.
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Dirty diesel, I'd recommend moving at least to 003n software which is 03/03/2016 update also known as 0001.01.01
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To be honest, I have no idea what UDC/WARP tuning is. Are you guys saying the we can purchase custom tunes to use with our RaceMe ultras? I think that would really help me out because my truck has been running like crap since I put the raceme on. I have worked with Franz a lot but I haven't heard from him in a long time. We never got my truck to stop surging and sputtering. My local shop said I should have gone with EFI Live from the get go, but that was after the fact, so I'm stuck with the RaceMe.

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To be honest, I have no idea what UDC/WARP tuning is. Are you guys saying the we can purchase custom tunes to use with our RaceMe ultras? I think that would really help me out because my truck has been running like crap since I put the raceme on. I have worked with Franz a lot but I haven't heard from him in a long time. We never got my truck to stop surging and sputtering. My local shop said I should have gone with EFI Live from the get go, but that was after the fact, so I'm stuck with the RaceMe.
Your not stuck with the ultra...I just ordered EFI from Phil at Anarchy. It'll be on my doorstep Tuesday. Not selling the ultra just in case I want it down the road. Got everything I need plus csp4 from him.
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I've been running a raceme ultra on my truck, just stock deleted. Very pleased. It's nice seeing all the option becoming available for custom tuning compatible with this device. Here's a list of tuners that I am aware of, feel free to add if I'm missing some:

Calibrated Addiction (Robert Ivey):

https://www.calibratedaddiction.com/...03-17-cummins/

Anarchy Diesel Tuning:

http://www.anarchydieseltuning.com/s...MM3_Tuner.html

Calibrated Power Soultions:

http://calibratedpower.com/cummins-2...egt-probe.html

Double R Diesel:

https://www.doublerdiesel.com/store/...egory=12507072

Draconian Diesel:

Nothing on their website


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Higher power performance released mm3 support yesterday.

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