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Old 05-09-2007, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Manual to Auto Conversion COMPLETE

I recently finished my manual to auto conversion and I must say it was a lot easier than I first thought.

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NADP Race Tranny w/ TQ Converter
ATS Standalone Controller & Valve Body
Suncoast Flexplate
Stock Tranny Cooler (Rad Mount)
Stock Tranny Cooler Lines
Auxillary B&M Tranny Cooler
Lokar Transmission Mounted Floor Shifter
Bell Housing Adapter Plate (Auto)
Input Shaft/Gear change on Xfer Case
Longer Rear Driveshaft
Clutch Master Cylinder Cover Plate


The conversion is pretty straight forward. You need to change the input shaft/gear on your transfer case because the auto has a 23 spline output shaft and the manual has a 29 spline shaft. You also need to change out the bell housing adapter plate because there is a spacer built into the manual adapter plate that puts the started too far away and it won't engage (don't ask me how I know). The stock rad mounted tranny cooler bolts right in, and the stock tranny cooler lines route fairly easily. I opted not to install the water/oil cooler above the starter, and just made up a couple fittings to connect the two lines together. I also put a tee in that spot for my tranny temp gauge.

Once the tranny was in, I hooked up the cooler lines and the standalone tranny controller, tapped the TPS sensor and MAP sensor for the controller, wired up power and routed the laptop cable into the cab and away I went. The ATS Standalone tranny controller is flat out awesome. I can't think of anything you can't do with this thing. I have to thank Joel at ATS for answering my questions...he has been great to deal with.

There are photos here if you are interested.

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Old 05-09-2007, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you not do the ECM reprogram for an auto?
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Man Jeff that is slick... I especially like the floor mounted auto shifter... That's something I could get my hands around... literally..
Are you the first to do this transformation?

Really cool...:thumbsup
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nope, no ECM reprogram...at least not yet. Right now the truck is running perfectly with the auto, so I think I will be OK.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Man Jeff that is slick... I especially like the floor mounted auto shifter... That's something I could get my hands around... literally..
Are you the first to do this transformation?

Really cool...:thumbsup
Thanks. The floor shifter is a really nice touch...and it looks factory!

I am pretty sure I am not the first to do this....and I bet I won't be the last
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nope, no ECM reprogram...at least not yet. Right now the truck is running perfectly with the auto, so I think I will be OK.
That's cool if it isn't needed
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nope, no ECM reprogram...at least not yet. Right now the truck is running perfectly with the auto, so I think I will be OK.
I'm going to tackle this next week. So the low speed govenor for the manual isnt effecting the auto?
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Now when you race, people won't be able to figure out how you are shifting so fast

VERY nice job!
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Awesome. Simply awesome. I was going to sell my truck because my wife can't shift the 5600. She had RC surgery on her right shoulder and her stick days ended. Now I have a solution.

Brother, you have shown me the way and I thank you!!
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Nice clean job! My concern would be trying to take it out of 2nd 4th or 6th gear instictively and shoving that baby right into reverse! Or theres aways the panic and go for the clutch durring a fast stopping situation that is going to have your heart in your throat. But im sure those issues will only be around for a week or two. I regret my NV5600 every traffic jam, ENJOY THE EASY LIFE!
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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...My concern would be trying to take it out of 2nd 4th or 6th gear instictively and shoving that baby right into reverse! Or theres aways the panic and go for the clutch durring a fast stopping situation that is going to have your heart in your throat....
The Lokar shifter has Park and Neutral lock outs so you can't go from drive to reverse (or vice-versa) without pressing the lockout button
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I'm going to tackle this next week. So the low speed govenor for the manual isnt effecting the auto?
The low speed governor is not seeming to be a problem :thumbsup
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